What's up guys, it's Zizkeli and welcome to the Ringer Podcast Network.

Launching this week on our Podcast Network is a new show from Van Lathen and Rachel Lindsay

called Higher Learning. Two times a week, they'll be dissecting the biggest topics in

Black culture, politics, and sports and waiting to the most important and timely conversations.

The first episode is out now, so make sure to subscribe to Higher Learning with Van Lathen

and Rachel Lindsay on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

Welcome to the right reasons.

Actually, I live in Namdae, but you're going.

We're podcasting after dark, man. It's like a late night show. I wake up really early,

so it's 9.30, so like for me, 9.30 is like normal person's like 11.30, I would say.

And first of all, I'm ready to roll. You can never pull the I wake really early thing with someone

with three little kids. I wake up at five.

Three and then four and then five and then I sleep at a child's bed between five and six.

Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Back on you. Back on you.

You're right. I woke up at five and read for a little while.

Yeah, yeah. I was like, what are you training for?

Try to plan a five in the morning.

There's consensual waking up at five and non-consensual waking up at five.

Let's just say that.

But I also want to say, I feel like you mentioned that because this is the first podcast we've

done where we both have might have some adult beverages.

I don't know what you're talking about.

...