What's up everybody? It's awesome rivers from the Minnesota Terrible Woes. It's a new

and I have a new podcast here at the ringer, off-guard hosted by me and my guy Pasha Hoagigi.

Austin and I go way back and talk so much hoop already that we figure it was time to fire up the mics and let you

in on all of these conversations.

Every week, Pasha and I will hit on the biggest stories happening in the league.

And get awesome's perspective of someone currently hooping in the NBA.

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podcast. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the death taxes and bananas

podcast. Now, the past couple of episodes I've done, I've had some rookies on,

Chauncey, Maurice, I've maintained that we've had a pretty strong

rookie class this season but I feel like it's time to turn up the heat a little bit

because we know this next guest. Whether he's trying to do it or not, this

guy just always finds himself in the center of controversy and that's why I love him so much because

I can relate. We're doing a first on the pod here too as well. This is my first three time guest on the death taxes and bananas Podcast. All right?

Had them on earlier this season,

but there were some things we could not yet talk about

just because they hadn't aired.

So I had to bring them back

to provide some context to the multiple storylines and sticky situations he's found himself in.

And it's also kind of ironic that not only is this his third time being on the pot, he is also a three-time challenge champ.

He's a triathlete, but I think his most notable skill set, something that we did not know about until very recently,

he's a hostage negotiator.

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