It's the recap of MTV host Ali and Brian C. and the dog and a party table like this song that don't mind me.

Hello everyone, welcome back to the challenge wrap up podcast for a special episode.

I don't ask you to not be with me this week, but I do have the great Sydney box bound the author of

How to win at the challenge and life, basically the gospel on the challenge. Very excited to have you here with me. So Sydney, how are you?

Hey, I'm great. Thanks so much for having me. I am so excited to be here.

Yeah, it's a great pleasure to have you here. We've been trying to lock this in for a few weeks now.

Your book came out October 25th, so it's already on the shelves ready to go.

I want to pick it up. So first, we'll just start with that. Where can people find it? Cause I'm sure after this, they're going to want to read all about it.

Where can people find the book and go ahead and purchase it?

Yeah, it is available wherever books are sold, whether you get them from Amazon, Burns and Noble.

And real actual bookstores, a friend actually texted me a photo that he saw it on a bookshelf in an actual bookstore, which I was so wild to me.

So yeah, wherever you buy your books, it's available there.

Perfect. And so I just wanted to jump in first immediately. We just kind of understanding your challenge, kind of backstory.

Like what made you fall so in love with this show and like the world, this world that you wanted to, like, basically write the book on it because you wrote the book on it.

What is it about the challenge that you just fell in love with?

Yeah, I started watching it way back in like the late 90s when it premiered as not even a show called the challenge.

I was only eight years old when it first premiered, so I didn't really understand quite a lot of the social aspects of it.

But I don't know, there's just something about how real all of the people are. They're not trying to be fake.

They're really, I mean, back then it was less of a competition, but the way that it's evolved has also made me love it even more because it's become something totally new and different through all its different eras.

And the fact that we've seen most of the same people throughout the past 20 something years and you've seen them grow and change it.

Like I'm watching a really extended soap opera of the same characters and I also just love the social and analytical aspects of the game.

I'm a huge fan of a lot of reality competition shows like Survivor and the way that people approach the game from different ways is always so fascinating to me.

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