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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

It's Thursday, September 10th. I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker writers and editors about politics. It's Thursday, September 10th.

I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker. According to the UN, as of last year,

60 million people have been living as refugees. That's 10 million more than 2013. Last week,

images appeared around the world of a dead toddler from Syria washed up on a Turkish

beach and of migrants climbing a razor fence in Hungary which catalyzed responses in Europe and the

U.S. On MSNBC last Friday, Hillary Clinton spoke about the crisis. I would hope that

under the egos of the United Nations, led by the Security Council, and certainly

by the United States, which has been such a generous nation in the past, we would begin to try

to find ways to help people get to safety in other lands.

However, that does not solve the problem. And the problem is one that the entire

world now sees doesn't just affect the Syrian people. It affects all of us. Philip Gravich and

Matathias Schwartz are here to discuss current notions about humanitarianism and how wealthy nations

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