My name is Ian Urbina. I've reported on some pretty mind-blowing stories but

nothing like what happens at sea. If they got within 800 meters that is when we

would fire warning shots. Murder, slavery, human trafficking, and staggering

environmental crimes. Men have told me that they've been beaten with

stingray tails, with chains. If you really want to understand crime start with a

law of the land ends, the outlaw ocean. Available now on CBC Listen and

everywhere you get your podcasts. This is a CBC podcast. I think it was a

tough one right from the get go because basically the only witness that we

could get was this four-and-a-half-year-old girl.

Sue, I think last time I talked to you in person, it was in November 2015 on the

island behind the parallel buildings and then there was an arrest and so maybe

just catch me up I guess from that point. Yeah, so we got a call on May 22nd

in 2018 because we relocated back to Calgary, right? Sue Martin, Terry

Dauphiné's mother, talking to me from Alberta. She's updating me on a break in

Terry's case. My husband got a message on his cell phone from a detective saying

can you please cause this is pertaining to Terry's case so my husband picked up

the phone and he called the detective and he said is this the call I've been

waiting for for 3,000 so many days and she said yes.

Over 16 years after Terry was found dead in her house her husband Ken Dauphiné

has been arrested. She sent of interest in this whole process. So how did it come

that Ken would become arrested after so many years and not talking? They got him

by the Mr. Big State. I'm David Rigen and welcome to the next call episode two in

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