The Case for Speechmaking in the Age of Doomscrolling
The Next Big Idea
Next Big Idea Club
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🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Caleb Bissinger. |
| 0:01.4 | And I'm Rufus Griscom. |
| 0:02.4 | And this is the next big idea. |
| 0:04.7 | Today, Obama's former speechwriter on why speeches still matter. Rufus, were you a West Wing fan? |
| 0:32.6 | Was I ever? |
| 0:34.1 | I just relished the show, and I just actually rewatched a bunch of episodes. Totally holds up. |
| 0:39.5 | I don't know how we've never nerded out about this. I'm a huge West Wing fanboy. I feel like I can |
| 0:44.7 | rewatch an episode at any time. And you're right. It does hold up pretty well, considering that I think |
| 0:51.3 | the show debuted in like 1999. Unbelievable. I was in my late 20s. |
| 0:56.3 | Yeah, I mean, I was eight years old. |
| 0:58.6 | Rubbing it in, as always. |
| 1:00.2 | But one thing that I think hasn't aged very well is the character's belief that a speech can solve their problems, right? |
| 1:07.1 | That it can change the narrative, that it can maybe even reroute the course of history. |
| 1:11.6 | Oratory should raise your heart rate. |
| 1:14.6 | Oratory should blow the doors off the place. |
| 1:16.6 | In a world of TikToks and reels, infinite scrolling, and a news cycle that moves faster than your thumb can swipe, |
| 1:23.6 | the idea of a politician going up to a lectern and talking for an hour? |
| 1:29.6 | Yeah, you lost me at lectern. But Ben Rhodes disagrees. Try to imagine American identity without |
| 1:36.8 | speeches. It's hard to do. You may recognize Ben's voice. I think I do. He's one of the Pod Save |
| 1:42.7 | America guys, right? He is. Yeah, he co-hosts their |
| 1:45.2 | foreign policy show, Pod Save the World. But before that, he was Deputy National Security |
| 1:50.3 | Advisor and a speechwriter in the Obama White House. So you'd expect him to stand up for speeches, |
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