The Case for Socialism with Bhaskar Sunkara

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🗓️ 9 July 2019

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Let’s talk about socialism. There’s a marked generational divide in the way people think about that word, what it means, and what it conjures. For those who were adults during the Cold War, socialism evokes something very different than those who came of age after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Now, there’s a growing part of the left that’s trying to make a case for socialism, inciting a definitional dispute about what it means and what it’s capable of. Bhaskar Sunkara is at the center of the political moment, having founded Jacobin, a democratic socialist magazine, back in 2010. Now, he’s here with his new book “The Socialist Manifesto” to discuss the debate. RELATED READING: The Socialist Manifesto by Bhaskar Sunkara Jacobin YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE: Defending Liberalism with Adam Gopnik (June 18)

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0:00.0	There are certain spheres in life where we just don't want the market period, even in our
0:03.6	society today.
0:04.6	So for example, healthcare and education, these are sectors where I think probably a majority
0:09.2	Americans would agree we don't want the market.
0:11.7	And we do want to find actually rational ways to distribute finite resources to people.
0:17.5	Yeah, I mean, I would even say prior to that, there's things like firefighting to me as
0:21.0	like the ultimate example, which used to be private.
0:24.1	It's a funny thing about firefighting.
0:25.6	Firefighting used to be private.
0:27.0	People used to hire the fire company and they would put the badge of the fire company
0:30.4	that they hired on their building to send the signal of like, yes, come put my fire
0:35.9	out.
0:36.9	Of course, people realize after a little while, the fires don't stay in one building.
0:41.6	Hello, and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host, Chris Aes.
0:48.2	All right, guys, it's happening.
0:50.0	We're talking about socialism.
0:51.8	It's all the rage these days, the kids, the kids are all into the socialism.
0:56.0	It's a tongue in cheek joke about the way that trends and public opinion have been covered.
1:01.7	Recently, there's all this polling that shows, you know, people under 30 like socialism
1:06.1	more than capitalism.
1:07.5	The favorability of socialism has gone up considerably.
1:11.2	There's an organization called the Democratic Socialist of America, which has been around
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