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Explain It to Me

The case for renting forever

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Education, News

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Housing prices aren't coming down, and that's challenging us to redefine the American dream. Maybe renting isn't so bad? The episode was produced by Miles Bryan and Kelli Wessinger, edited by Jenny Lawton, fact-checked by Melissa Hirsch, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Adriene Lilly, and hosted by Jonquilyn Hill. Image of homes in Hercules, California by David Paul Morris/Bloomberg via Getty Images.  This story was supported by a grant from Arnold Ventures. Vox had full discretion over the content of this reporting. If you have a question, give us a call on 1-800-618-8545 or send us a note here. Listen to Explain It to Me ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's time for Black Friday at Dell Technologies.

0:02.7

Save big on PCs like the Dell 16 Plus featuring Intelcore Ultra Processors.

0:07.3

Shop now at Dell.com.

0:08.3

It's off Black Friday.

0:10.6

Support for this show comes from Odu.

0:13.2

Running a business is hard enough.

0:15.5

So why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other?

0:19.9

Introducing Odu. It's the only business

0:22.5

software you'll ever need. It's an all-in-one fully integrated platform that makes your work easier,

0:28.7

CRM, accounting, inventory, e-commerce, and more. And the best part, Odu replaces multiple

0:34.7

expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost.

0:40.9

That's why over thousands of businesses have made the switch.

0:42.0

So why not you?

0:45.2

Try O-D-O-4-free at O-D-O-O-D-com.

0:48.0

That's O-D-O-O-O-O-com.

0:56.3

I brought it up to you and was like, well, what would you think if we moved in together?

1:01.6

People who haven't bought yet, like me, feel like they may never be able to.

1:04.1

Homeotorship, overrated. That's my take.

1:09.7

Oh, hi. Hi.

1:15.4

The other day, my producer, Kelly and I went to a quiet residential neighborhood in D.C.

1:18.4

To visit NPR host Aisha Roscoe.

1:26.2

It's a two-story white and brick home with a front and backyard and pumpkins out on the porch.

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