The Case For Optimism As A Tool When Life Is Hard w/ Behavioral Scientist Dr. Deepika Chopra
The Kevin Miller Podcast
Kevin Miller
4.5 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 9 March 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. In this podcast, we look at how we make meaning of our lives and how to |
| 0:06.4 | improve our lived experience. In this episode, the case for optimism as a tool when life is hard. |
| 0:15.9 | I think the cultural perspective on optimism has decreased, even to the point of it being showcased as naive. |
| 0:26.0 | It seems in vogue to be pessimistic and even cynical. Well, the definition of optimism is |
| 0:32.2 | hopefulness and confidence about the future or the successful outcome of something. |
| 0:37.3 | So if we consider the converse, in dealing with a challenge in your life, do you think your |
| 0:42.5 | chances of being resilient and coming out with the best case scenario would be better served |
| 0:46.9 | with a perspective and attitude of hopelessness and doubt? |
| 0:51.6 | I was thinking about a surgeon. |
| 0:54.0 | Would I rather my surgeon have hopefulness and confidence in my procedure or hopelessness |
| 1:00.4 | and doubt? |
| 1:01.7 | Well, we of course want them to have skill regardless, but I like the juxtaposition. |
| 1:06.6 | So my guest on this topic in this episode is Dr. Deepika Chopra. |
| 1:13.0 | Deepika is a behavioral scientist and psychologist who specializes in what she has coined as evidence-based manifestation, |
| 1:23.4 | which draws from behavioral science, emotional fitness, neuroscience, and ancient wisdom to build |
| 1:29.7 | modern tools for resilience and joy. |
| 1:32.9 | She holds a doctorate in clinical health psychology. |
| 1:35.2 | She completed a double postdoctoral fellowship at both the University of California at Los Angeles |
| 1:40.9 | and Cedars Sinai Medical Center. |
| 1:44.0 | She's completed her formal dissertation |
| 1:45.6 | on the topic of optimism, as well as positive sensory visualization and the connection |
| 1:51.9 | to optimal well-being. She's a recurring guest on the Today Show. Her work has been featured in Forbes |
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