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The Kevin Miller Podcast

The Case For Optimism As A Tool When Life Is Hard w/ Behavioral Scientist Dr. Deepika Chopra

The Kevin Miller Podcast

Kevin Miller

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Social Sciences, Education, How To, Society & Culture, Science, Medicine, Life Sciences, Spirituality, Nutrition, Self-improvement, Mental Health, Relationships

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

I think the cultural perspective on optimism has decreased, even to the point of it being naive. It seems in vogue to be pessimistic and even cynical. The definition of optimism is, hopefulness and confidence about the future or the successful outcome of something. So let’s consider the converse. In dealing with a challenge in your life, do you think your chances of being resilient and coming out with a best case scenario would be better served with a perspective and attitude of hopelessness and doubt? I thought of a surgeon. Would I rather my surgeon have hopefulness and confidence in my procedure, or hopelessness and doubt? Yes, we want them both to have skill. But I like this juxtaposition. My guest in this episode is Dr. Deepika Chopra. Deepika is a behavioral scientist and psychologist who specializes in what she has coined as, "evidence-based manifestation," which draws from behavioral science, emotional fitness, neuroscience, and ancient wisdom to build modern tools for resilience and joy. She holds a doctorate in clinical health psychology and completed a double postdoctoral fellowship at both the University of California at Los Angeles and Cedars Sinai Medical Center. She completed her formal dissertation on the topic of optimism, positive sensory visualization, and the connection to optimal well-being. She is a recurring guest on the TODAY Show, and her work has also been featured in Forbes, Harper's Bazaar, VOGUE, GOOP, Variety, E!, and more. She has led workshops for companies like Google, Amazon, and Amex, and has delivered keynotes at events including the Aspen Ideas Festival and The Atlantic’s In Pursuit of Happiness. But more than any of those accolades what I intrigued myself most with, is she has a sone with a severe chronic illness. An illness that is likely to see his life cut very short. When we first started our discussion I asked her how he was doing, and Deepika said he was doing ok. Today. She lives day by day with his very existence in the balance. And she has devoted herself to optimism. So much so that she’s now know as “The Optimism Dr.” Deepika has a brand new book titled, The Power of Real Optimism: A Practical, Science-Based Guide to Staying Resilient, Curious, and Open Even When Life Is Hard. Find her at thingsarelookingup.co Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to start your free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. In this podcast, we look at how we make meaning of our lives and how to

0:06.4

improve our lived experience. In this episode, the case for optimism as a tool when life is hard.

0:15.9

I think the cultural perspective on optimism has decreased, even to the point of it being showcased as naive.

0:26.0

It seems in vogue to be pessimistic and even cynical. Well, the definition of optimism is

0:32.2

hopefulness and confidence about the future or the successful outcome of something.

0:37.3

So if we consider the converse, in dealing with a challenge in your life, do you think your

0:42.5

chances of being resilient and coming out with the best case scenario would be better served

0:46.9

with a perspective and attitude of hopelessness and doubt?

0:51.6

I was thinking about a surgeon.

0:54.0

Would I rather my surgeon have hopefulness and confidence in my procedure or hopelessness

1:00.4

and doubt?

1:01.7

Well, we of course want them to have skill regardless, but I like the juxtaposition.

1:06.6

So my guest on this topic in this episode is Dr. Deepika Chopra.

1:13.0

Deepika is a behavioral scientist and psychologist who specializes in what she has coined as evidence-based manifestation,

1:23.4

which draws from behavioral science, emotional fitness, neuroscience, and ancient wisdom to build

1:29.7

modern tools for resilience and joy.

1:32.9

She holds a doctorate in clinical health psychology.

1:35.2

She completed a double postdoctoral fellowship at both the University of California at Los Angeles

1:40.9

and Cedars Sinai Medical Center.

1:44.0

She's completed her formal dissertation

1:45.6

on the topic of optimism, as well as positive sensory visualization and the connection

1:51.9

to optimal well-being. She's a recurring guest on the Today Show. Her work has been featured in Forbes

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