Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

Attend the graduation of a college senior,

and the commencement speech is likely to include a few themes.

Do something big.

Make a name for yourself.

Change the world.

My guest is not a fan of this advice, and says that rather than the Brandon Wormky is a professor of philosophy and the co-author of why it's okay to mind your own business.

Today in the show, Brandon explains by what he calls commencement speech and morality,

distorts our moral vision by emphasizing one version of the good and valuable life at the expense

of the value and good of a life marked by ordinary morality.

Brandon first impacts the dangers of intervening in other people's business, including becoming

a moralizer in a busy body.

He then makes a case for the benefits of minding your own business and putting down roots,

creating a good home, and living in solitude.

And for how a smaller, quieter life can still be generous, important, and noble.

After the show's over, check at our show notes at AIM.IS slash ordinary morality. All right, Brandon Wormke, welcome back to the show.

Thanks for having me, Brett.

So we had you on a few years ago to talk about your book, Moral Grandstanding.

You got a new book out called Why It's OK to Mind Your Own Business.

And this is really interesting. It's about minding your business morally.

What's interesting is you're a moral philosopher.

So you wouldn't think a moral philosopher who would say,

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