The Case for Indicting Donald Trump

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

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🗓️ 18 October 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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For years, liberals have deluded themselves into thinking that Donald Trump was always on the verge of some calamitous legal defeat. Robert Mueller was made into an icon of the left. But no charges were filed. The Russiagate theory had a lot of smoke, and even some fire, but it failed to put Trump in a courtroom. At this point, you could be forgiven for checking out entirely on the efforts to charge Trump with crimes, since they all seem to end the same way. Without an indictment. If that’s going to change, it will largely rest on the decision making of one man: Merrick Garland, the attorney general of the United States. In a recent essay for The Atlantic, staff writer Frank Foer spent hours talking to Garland to understand who he is, how he thinks, and how his approach to law could help us predict the next chapter of the Trump legal saga. Foer comes away with a big prediction: The indictment of Trump is now "inevitable." And he’s here to tell us why. Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Frank Foer Producer: Devon Manze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:26.5	Today's episode is about a big, important question that could determine the next American
0:34.1	president and the future of American politics entirely.
0:37.9	Should the US government indict Donald Trump?
0:41.3	Depending on your ideology or your appetite for other political chaos, your answer to that
0:45.5	question could be anything from absolutely not, no, please, no, to absolutely yes, but
0:51.0	I don't even know which the 10,000 things that Trump has done or even talking about
0:54.8	anymore.
0:55.8	So, over the purposes of focusing us in today's podcast, I think we should keep
1:00.1	front of mind three alleged crimes that deserve our attention.
1:04.1	Number one, there are the events of January 6th where Trump encouraged a crowd of election
1:07.8	deniers to march on the Capitol, which they invaded in an attempt to disrupt an electoral
1:11.9	process.
1:12.9	Second, the Department of Justice is also investigating Trump's attempts to subvert the 2020 election
1:18.7	by installing an alternate slate of electors that would have thrown out the votes of Democrats
1:23.0	to give him the win.
1:24.6	And third, maybe most importantly, certainly most recently, we've learned that when Trump
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