The case for alarm about artificial intelligence (Robert Wright & Holly Elmore)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

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🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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0:28 Holly’s newsletter and her work with PauseAI 3:45 The state of AI safety 10:54 Why Holly started PauseAI US 14:55 Is AI acceleration… accelerating? 23:47 What rationalists got wrong about the singularity 29:43 Mechanize Inc. and the danger of AI safety sellouts 40:10 Holly: Here’s why AI should alarm you 48:25 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Holly Elmore (PauseAI US). Recorded April 29, 2025.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:27.1	Hello, Holly.
0:31.3	Hello, Bob.
0:32.4	How are you?
0:34.1	Good.
0:35.6	Good.
0:36.3	Let me introduce us.
0:37.1	I'm Robert Wright, Editor-in-chief of the non-zero newsletters
0:39.4	this is a non-zero podcast you are holly elmore uh executive director i think of pause a i
0:48.4	u s pause a i u s yeah that's the entity that I'm executive director of.
0:55.1	The movement is pause-AI.
0:56.9	Right.
0:57.5	Okay.
0:58.2	And, yeah, and you would like to pause AI well beyond the U.S.
1:02.9	I think.
1:04.9	So, yeah.
1:05.6	And also you do a substack that is, I think, named after you.
1:29.0	That's a lot older. Yeah, that's just my personal substack. But sometimes put some AI-related takes if they're not exactly org takes. Yeah, yeah. No, that's just you. It's a sample of what I'm thinking of. And for the last two years, this is all I've been thinking of. Right. That's my sense. I've noticed that on your Twitter feed.
1:32.9	So your substack is, I think it's holly-elmore.
1:36.3	That substack, I think is URL.
1:37.7	It's named after you.
1:43.2	And yeah, so I'm really excited about this because I have followed you on Twitter,
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