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The Case for $50M Bitcoin and Patrick Witt 'Cautiously Optimistic' on Clarity Act

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🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Why this CEO sees bitcoin hitting $50M by 2041. On this episode of CoinDesk's Public Keys at the New York Stock Exchange, Jennifer Sanasie is joined by White House Executive Director of the President's Council of Advisors on Digital Assets Patrick Witt for the latest on the Clarity Act and why stablecoin yield poses limited risk to banks. EMJX CEO Eric Jackson explains his Gen 2 digital asset treasury strategy and makes the case for $50 million Bitcoin by 2041. Plus, Morgan Stanley Managing Director and Head of Digital Asset Strategy Amy Oldenburg discusses the firm's spot Bitcoin ETF launch and its expanding crypto product suite. - Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to Public Keys 00:32 Tax Deadline, Inflation Data and Earnings Season Ahead 01:10 Barclays Downgrades Coinbase as Crypto Trading Declines 01:25 Senate Returns with Clarity Act on the Agenda 01:43 White House's Patrick Witt on Market Structure Timeline 04:41 Stablecoin Yield Poses Limited Risk to Banks, White House Finds 07:37 DeFi, Developer Language and Other Sticking Points 11:03 EMJX CEO Eric Jackson on 'Gen 2' Digital Asset Treasuries 16:12 Why AI Agents Will Use Ethereum, Not Solana 17:09 The Case for $50 Million Bitcoin by 2041 19:24 Crypto Equities to Watch: Bittensor, IREN, Cipher and Hut 8 23:33 Bitcoin and Ether ETF Flows 25:48 Morgan Stanley's Amy Oldenburg on the Firm's Spot Bitcoin ETF 27:00 Spot ETH, SOL Filings and E-Trade Crypto Trading 30:06 Tokenized Money Market Funds and the Road Ahead - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, I'm Jensenassie and this is Coin Desk's Public Keys at the New York Stock Exchange.

0:11.3

This show is all about crypto in the public markets, from IPOs and digital asset treasuries

0:16.8

to ETFs and the biggest market moving headlines.

0:19.8

Over the next half hour, we'll hear from the White House's Patrick Witt, EMJ Capitals, Eric Jackson, and Morgan Stanley's Amy Oldenberg. All right, let's get into it. Here's what we're watching this week. Wednesday is the U.S. tax deadline. Historically, this brings selling pressure as investors liquidate crypto to cover capital gains. So keep an eye on volatility heading into midweek.

0:39.3

On the macro side, we get producer price inflation data on Tuesday morning.

0:43.3

A hot print could slam the door on federate cuts for the rest of the year.

0:47.2

Betters over on Kelchie are saying there's around a 40% chance of zero cuts in 2026.

0:54.0

Earning season is here.

0:55.0

Goldman Sachs reports today, followed by JPM Morgan and Black Rock tomorrow.

1:00.0

We'll be listening for any updates on crypto exposure, et-f flows and tokenization efforts, all key

1:06.0

signals for institutional appetite.

1:08.0

Meanwhile, Barclays has downgraded Coinbase, warning that global

1:11.5

crypto trading activity has declined to a level not seen since the end of 2023. This is forcing

1:17.2

analysts across the industry to revise their projections downward to reflect a quieter market.

1:22.5

And finally, the U.S. Senate is back from recess with crypto market structure legislation,

1:27.4

the Clarity Act on the agenda.

1:29.4

Last week, Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong publicly backed calls to pass the bill in response to Treasury Secretary Scott Besant,

1:36.6

who urged Congress to move quickly on digital asset regulation.

1:40.3

Speaking of market structure, here with the latest, is Executive Director of the President's Council of Advisors on Digital Assets at the White House, Patrick Witt.

1:48.0

Hey Patrick.

1:49.0

Hey, how you doing?

1:50.0

I'm doing great. Lovely to see you.

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