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That's what we're about, and I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor.

And I'm Dan Barker, and Annie Laurie and I are co-presidents of the Freedom from Religion Foundation.

This is the September 12th, 2024 episode.

Leo Costello is our producer, and Tori Neels with Audio for the Arts as our engineer.

Recording Free Thought Radio in the Stephen Ull-friendly atheist studio in Freethad Hall, which is the National Office of the Freedom from Religion Foundation in Madison, Wisconsin.

And Wisconsin has a motto, our state motto is called forward, so we often try to promote that.

Free Thought Radio is the weekly production of the Freedom from Religion Foundation. Emphasis always on

that from. There is no true religious freedom without the freedom to dissent, as Anne Gaylor,

the original principal founder of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, always put it. So we have

two purposes to work to keep religion out of government as is constitutionally

required and to represent the views of those of us who are personally free from religion. And if you are

a member of our 40,000 member group, the third largest rethought group in the world, thank you. But we would

like to be larger. We would be

glad to send you a complimentary sample of our newspaper, Free Thought Today, a brochure about our 47-plus

years of activism, and you can click the Ask for Info link at fFRF.org. Our school vouchers good

for education?

Our guest in the second half of the show, Josh Cowan, will tell us why religious conservatives continue to push for school vouchers in spite of the fact that they've been repeatedly shown to be bad for education.

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