The Case Against Masking ICE Agents
Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast
WNYC Studios
4.4 • 675 Ratings
🗓️ 4 February 2026
⏱️ 23 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From WNYC Studios, I'm Brian Lehrer. |
| 0:08.4 | This is my daily politics podcast. |
| 0:10.9 | It's Wednesday, February 4th. |
| 0:14.0 | The short government shutdown has ended with Democrats winning this concession. |
| 0:19.8 | The Department of Homeland Security is only being funded until next Friday, |
| 0:25.3 | while Congress and the White House try to negotiate possible changes |
| 0:28.9 | to the rules of engagement for ICE. |
| 0:31.5 | As New York Magazine reports it, |
| 0:33.5 | Senate Democrats have a list of substantive demands |
| 0:36.5 | that include a requirement for judicial |
| 0:39.9 | warrants before ICE or Border Patrol arrests, coordination with local law enforcement and |
| 0:47.0 | deference to their use of force rules, and an end to masking. |
| 0:52.4 | Let's talk about that last one. |
| 0:56.1 | Here's Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer yesterday. Defending ICE agents wearing masks and giving them special treatment, especially when |
| 1:02.8 | they're so brutal and thuggy, is totally against the views of most Americans who want basic |
| 1:08.7 | accountability. Anyone defending ICE agents keeping their masks on is not seriously trying to solve. |
| 1:16.1 | This huge problem of chaos we have seen in Minneapolis and so many of our other cities |
| 1:21.1 | when ice is sent in there. |
| 1:24.6 | Senator Schumer yesterday, Atlantic Magazine staff writer Adam Surwer has a new article called |
| 1:30.9 | The Real Reason Ice Agents Wear Masks. He's also author of the book, The Cruelty is the Point, |
| 1:38.3 | why Trump's America Endures, and that, by the way, was published back in 2022. And thank you for |
| 1:43.9 | joining us, Adam. Welcome |
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