Hi and welcome to Undisclosed. This is Episode 3 of the Case Against a Nonsei Ed, Justice

is Arbitrary. My name is Robbie H. Othory and I'm here with my colleagues Susan Simpson

and Colin Miller. Hi guys. Hey. All right. So we all watched Episode 3. I watched it three

times. And yes, this is the episode where it seems like we're getting some new stuff.

At least I hadn't been aware of before and the first two episodes felt a little more foundational.

What did you guys think in general? I think we get an idea of where this documentary is

heading and where it's what it's a view or it's a it's near to the case is going to be.

Obviously in four episodes you cannot cover the entire case. You can't cover any case

in that amount of time. We'll loan this one. But they have chosen to show the whole case

through a lens looking at a certain feature or well many features. And I think it's going

to scope. It has to do with how to explain Jen and Christy and Jay and how to explain

how historic here to be. During the time of this dig and we received a phone call and

I didn't even get a chance to talk to them. We told them that I was busy. If somebody

were in Lincoln Park and received two calls, those calls would indicate the cell site

for Lincoln Park. Correct. Right. So they're really scrutinizing

the state's narrative here. Right. And also I think kind of trying to figure out what

is the deal with Jay? Like who is he and why did he why did his stories change over time

and all these things and how he got involved in the whole thing. And so the episode opens

up with his ex girlfriend, Nikisha, who's also the mother of his son, calling Jay.

Hello. Yeah, I'm here. I'm listening. At first he told me that he was there and that

everything he had stayed at was true. He told you that but you didn't think he was serious.

So what did you bring for your in freak out when you actually like seen it and like was

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