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The Two Matts

"The Caroline Lucas Interview"

The Two Matts

The New World

Politics, Government, News, News Commentary

4.2577 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Caroline Lucas changed British politics when she became the UK’s first Green MP in 2010. Now she’s bringing her Westminster career to a close.. the Two Matts sit down with her for an extended interview about integrity in politics, why Keir Starmer needs to show more courage, and how spending time with the dying has given her a fresh perspective on life. It’s a fascinating listen with one of our most remarkable politicians. 


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journalism. Hello, I'm Matt Kelly. And I'm Matt Dancona. And this is the two mats for the week

1:01.5

ending Friday, the 21st of July. And welcome to you all. Thanks for tuning in. Thank you so much again,

1:06.9

as ever. We're very grateful for your listens. Certainly are. Yeah. Well, and this week's a bit different really, isn't it?

1:13.0

Yeah, we're taking, we've gone on the road a bit.

1:15.8

Yeah, all the way to Westminster. It's a long way.

1:18.2

It was. And we met with the wonderful, is that too strong?

1:22.2

No, I think it's absolutely spot on. Wonderful Caroline Lucas.

1:25.1

Who is very sadly, departinging Parliament and we talked to her about

1:30.4

that and why she's leaving. Yeah. And we talked to her about her views on public standards in public life.

1:37.5

And also about her quite crisp views on Keir Stama's failures on the Green Agenda.

1:44.6

Yeah, she was very strong on Kirstar.

1:46.2

She was.

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