It's July 15th, 2006, and this is The Candid Frame.

Welcome to another episode of The Candid Frame.

Before we move on to the interview, I wanted to mention a couple of things that I think would be of interest to the listeners out there.

The first is about another website, another podcast that focuses on photography, and it's called The Radiant Vista, which you can find at www.organtvista.com.

And it's a great resource for photography, and one of the best things about it is that

it's free, but it's it's a

priceless resource that the the crew there have provided to any of us with an internet connection

and a passion for photography but what i especially wanted to mention was the last episode of

their podcast episode 12 which was released back on July 8th.

And it was called Fear of the Rules or Fear Itself.

And it was basically an essay about, by Craig Tanner, who's one of the people responsible

for the candid frame, about the whole concept of why we create art, what gets considered art, not only by our fellow photographers, but the world at large.

And it was just a fascinating, just a fascinating discussion of a lot of concepts, concepts that I've been thinking about recently,

but I had never heard it so concisely presented as Craig did on this episode.

So if you have any interest in photography beyond, you know, just snapping a picture to you every once in a while,

take a listen to this episode.

I think it'll inspire you.

It will make you think.

And while you're there, take advantage of all the different resources that they have available

there for you.

I can't say enough about it.

And the other thing is sort of self-referential.

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