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The Philip DeFranco Show

The Candace Owens Charlie Kirk Leaks Spark MAGA Meltdown & TPUSA Accusations

The Philip DeFranco Show

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4.81000 Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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0:00.0

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0:15.0

Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show. You daily dive into the news. It's Tuesday, and there's a lot to talk about, starting with this.

0:22.5

This Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, Maga divide situation is crazy, especially as you've got

0:27.8

Candice Owens dropping a alleged Charlie Kirk tech screenshots. Because if you haven't seen,

0:32.1

ever since Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you've had Candice Owens out there questioning the

0:35.5

federal investigation, discussing it frequently on our podcast and putting out some of her own theories or possibilities as to why he or how he was killed.

0:42.4

And with all that, she's often claimed that Charlie, who had long been pro-Israel, was starting to change his mind and had become more critical. And she got a ton of attention when she claimed that MAGA and pro-Israel billionaire Bill Ackman had privately cornered Charlie at an event, and the Hampton's not long before his death and made, quote, threats after Charlie questioned

0:57.7

the way that Israel was handling the war.

0:59.3

Now, Ackman denied that, and you had Charlie's producer and spokesperson claiming that Charlie

1:03.2

had a cordial relationship with Bill.

1:04.8

But apparently at this Hampton's meeting, people were questioning whether or not Charlie should

1:07.8

host Tucker Carlson, who he's been very critical of Israel at an upcoming event.

1:11.7

And Kirk allegedly claimed, honestly, people telling me not to have Tucker makes me want to have Tucker.

1:16.3

And all this ties to some of the latest claims that Candace has made, saying yesterday on her show that Charlie was, quote, done with Israel bullying him and then sharing screenshots and messages that she claims came from a group chat that Charlie was in with his pastor and seven other people where he said. So Charlie writes in this group chat just lost another huge

1:32.2

Jewish donor, two million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting

1:39.6

Candice. Somebody writes, oh, Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause. And somebody writes, Sedona writes, please do not invite Candace. That might feel good short term, but it's not good long term. This is 48 hours before Charles was assassinated. He was very clear and he was very explicit and he did not back down out in that Hampton's meeting, which they're all lying about, nor in this text thread. Now with this, it seems like Candice wasn't part of this alleged group chat. And she also doesn't make it 100% clear how she got these apparent messages, which I also will say have not been independently verified by any major news outlets, at least as a recording. But this comes as she was also alleging that higher-ups at Turning Point USA are trying to stop her and others from investigating Charlie's death and promoting their own conspiracies about what happened. What we do know definitively is that the feds are lying to us.

2:34.7

That is obvious. It is abundant. If you have a, if you're able to think thoughts, you recognize

2:40.6

that something is very wrong with the story that has been presented to the public. And I think

2:47.0

that what the public doesn't understand, and I count myself among the public, is why it

2:52.8

seems as though turning point USA executives, and I'll say seems, are not even remotely

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