The Cancer Healing Scam: Part 2
The Dating Detectives
Dear Media
4.7 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 22 December 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
In today’s Dating Detectives episode, Hannah and Mackenzie are joined by two sisters, Tessa and Lena, who share the heartbreaking story of their mom and the dangerous “healer” who charmed his way into her life. What starts as a new spiritual interest turns into something far darker: a charismatic grifter who peddles bogus “energy readings,” pushes conspiracy-fueled medical misinformation, and steadily isolates their mother from her family, right as serious illness enters the picture. As their mothers health deteriorates and a cancer diagnosis becomes impossible to ignore, the sisters watch in horror as her husband discourages treatment, undermines doctors, and replaces real care with reckless “natural” remedies, leaving them scrambling to protect their mom and regain control of her medical decisions. This is part two of a two-part story about spiritual manipulation, medical abuse, and what it feels like to fight for someone you love when they’ve been convinced the danger is actually the cure.
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| 0:00.0 | The following program contains names, places, and events that have been anonymized or fictionalized for the purposes of protection and safety. |
| 0:08.8 | The following program is provided for entertainment purposes only, and any commentary from the hosts are strictly conjecture and should not be held as making any definitive statements about the truth or identity of any particular individuals or circumstances. |
| 0:21.2 | If you or a loved one are involved in an abusive relationship, |
| 0:24.2 | please call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-723 for support. |
| 0:43.9 | Happy dating detectives Monday, but I got to tell you, I'm not so happy about this episode. |
| 0:50.5 | This is a sad one. Most of them can be sad in some way or another, but this one is, it's sad, |
| 0:55.0 | but it's so important. I'm so grateful that they are sharing this with us. |
| 0:59.3 | Yeah. And we've only heard the first half so far. So now we're going to get into the second half. Thank you for patiently waiting for part two. I mean, listen to part one. If you have not, |
| 1:05.8 | the quickest recap ever. We have sisters Lena and Tessa, their mom, who was, you know, had a career, |
| 1:14.8 | how to life, was totally independent and great, started dating a guy named Grant. |
| 1:22.2 | Through the Reiki world and like the spiritual wellness world and he claimed to be an up and coming supernatural healer |
| 1:29.6 | and started giving some medical advice he definitely should not have been giving and i feel like |
| 1:36.1 | people like him or why people have a hard time believing in other stuff you know like believe in what |
| 1:40.6 | you want but he's someone who maybe gives it a little bit of a bad name, I think. |
| 1:44.3 | Hey, we say trust but verify, verify, verify, verify. |
| 1:48.3 | This guy was not verified. |
| 1:50.1 | And it's really sad what it led to. |
| 1:52.9 | So we've talked about cancer and definitely a lot of hospital and medical stuff and medical manipulation and abuse. |
| 2:03.6 | Just terrible, terrible stuff this guy did. |
| 2:06.3 | And I just were devastated for them. |
| 2:09.4 | But I'm so grateful for their bravery and their courage and sharing this. |
| 2:13.4 | So without further ado, shall we, shall we do part two of this episode? |
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