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Welcome to Knappi here, a podcast where so many things are happening here that we frankly have worn out the bit about trying to use this as our introduction.

I am your host, Bia Wong. One of

the many, many, many, many, many, many crises that are unfolding in this country right now is a

rolling ethnic cleansing carried out by ICE in Border Patrol with the assistance of the cops.

And we have talked about this from a lot of angles.

But a thing I want to sort of draw attention back to in this moment where there's increased attention and scrutiny from truly a series of really hideous ice shootings, is what it's

like to be in detention right now and how possibly people can be gotten out of detention?

And with me to talk about something that I feel like I can't even describe as

the horrors because it's simply worse than that is Ellie Bell, who is a community organizer,

does many things, wears many hats. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Hello. I'm Ellie. And the reason I am here right now for this specific

podcast conversation is that I am on a team that is trying to help many immigrants, but one in

particular that I will be talking about tonight, Al Barrow, who is a father

and a husband and is currently detained in an ICE detention center in Indiana after being transferred

from his home in Chicago. And, you know, we are trying to get him out and to get his family's story

out there and his story out there. And, you know, among many other things that ICE is doing

and the way that fits into all of that, that's what I am here to talk about today.

Yeah, so let's begin.

So I guess one thing that I want to sort of lead off with here is obviously the sort of the most intense ice repression and raids have shifted to places like Minneapolis right now.

I mean, who knows, as you're listening to this,

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