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The Call of the Void

Outside/In

NHPR

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, Nature, Science, Documentary

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

[Editor's Note: This episode first aired in April 2022]Last year our host, Nate Hegyi, was on the edge of a very high cliff in Utah’s Zion National Park when he heard a little voice inside his head whisper… “jump.”   He didn’t heed the call, thankfully, and when he got down safely he discovered that more than a third of all people might feel this urge, ominously known as “the call of the void.”  Most of us can wave off these impulses. But what if you couldn’t? What if the call of the void was so intense that you almost acted? Is there a cure?  This episode contains a contextual reference to suicidal ideation. If you or someone you know is struggling with depression, anxiety, or just needs someone to talk to, reach out to the folks at the Crisis Text Line, a texting service for emotional crisis support. To speak with a trained listener, text HELLO to 741741. It is free, available 24/7, and confidential. Featuring: Jennifer Hames, Stephen Hunt   SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In.  Subscribe to our FREE newsletter. Follow Outside/In on Instagram or Twitter, or join our private discussion group on Facebook   LINKS This 2020 study, in BMC Psychiatry, looks at the prevalence of high place phenomenon and whether it’s connected to suicidal ideation.  Read Jennifer Hames’ paper in The Journal of Affective Disorders on the “call of the void”: “An urge to jump affirms the urge to live: an empirical examination of the high place phenomenon.” The Imp of the Perverse, by Edgar Allen Poe Marconi Union, “Weightless” Listen to our previous episode “Even Hikers Get The Blues”    CREDITS Host: Nate Hegyi Reported and produced by: Nate Hegyi. Mixer: Nate Hegyi and Taylor Quimby Editing by Taylor Quimby, with help from Justine Paradis, Jessica Hunt, Felix Poon and Rebecca Lavoie. Rebecca Lavoie is our Executive Producer Music for this episode by Marconi Union, Sour Mash, Dew of Light, Gavin Luke, and Christopher Moe Ditlevsen. Our theme music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ta-da-da, everyone recording?

0:02.6

Yes.

0:03.6

Yep.

0:04.6

Perfect.

0:05.6

Cool.

0:06.6

So this is that side in.

0:07.6

I'm Nate Hegey here with producers Felix Poon and Justine Paradise.

0:10.6

Hey guys.

0:11.6

Hi.

0:12.6

Hello.

0:13.6

So we're all gathered here because I want to tell you a story.

0:18.8

Something that happened to me before I started this job.

0:22.8

I took a week off and I went down to Southwest Utah for solo vacation.

0:28.8

You're just going around camping, running with one of my dogs,

0:31.6

and one day I decided to go design National Park.

0:34.6

And there's this really famous hike there called Angel's Landing.

0:38.0

You guys heard of it?

0:39.0

No.

0:40.0

No.

0:41.0

Have not.

0:42.0

Essentially, you climb up this really skinny spine of a mountain.

0:45.0

Hundreds of feet up.

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