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Rational Security

The "C'mon Neil" Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

This week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Lawfare's new director of digital media, Claudia Swain! They talked through some of the week's biggest national security news, including:

  • “It’s Not the Motion in the OSHA, It’s the Size of Your Popular Mandate.” The Supreme Court has invalidated the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s vaccination-or-test mandate for major employers. What will the Court’s decision mean for the Biden administration efforts to combat COVID?
  • “We Met On OKstupid.” The Justice Department has indicted leaders of the Oath Keepers movement for seditious conspiracy, based in part on social media communications in which they actively recruited and planned for the violence of Jan. 6. What does the indictment tell us about the risk of domestic violent extremism?
  • “Law & Order: DVE.” The Justice Department’s National Security Division just created a new unit committed to prosecuting domestic terrorism. What kind of lasting impact might this move have in preventing another Jan. 6?

For object lessons, Alan drew our attention to a story of rampant abuse of power being investigated by the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency's inspector general: allegations that an employee printed off over 100 copies of their wedding program on a government computer. Quinta made the minor suggestion that the FBI should not Tweet about MLK Day, which commemorates the life of a man it unlawfully surveilled and tried to push toward suicide. Scott strongly celebrated the new show "We Are Lady Parts" about a female Muslim punk band in East London, as well as the album of original music its creators have released. And Claudia drew our attention to a story of international significance: the deregulation of French dressing, after a decades-long regulatory fight. 

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0:00.0

Claudia I really like your pop filter. Thank you so much. I feel like my

0:06.5

neighbors probably think I'm like a twitch streamer or something because my set

0:09.5

up has been really important to me this entire pandemic. I'm trying to figure

0:14.0

out if you'd be if you're like more of a Minecraft person or a fortnight

0:17.3

person and now my knowledge of contemporary video games. Something I used to be

0:21.4

really into and I was a younger person. I have now exhausted. I did actually

0:26.5

start playing Minecraft the first time a few months ago. I probably put 80

0:30.9

hours into it. I hate it. I hate every hour that I put into it and I couldn't

0:35.1

stop. I think I had to end up just deleting it because it took over my life.

0:39.5

Sounds like Twitter. I feel like Minecraft is pretty

0:42.3

and offensive. What did you hate about Minecraft? Okay. Well, so I don't know if

0:47.0

it's the version that I got but I didn't get a tutorial ever so I never knew what

0:51.3

I was doing and then I found out like I don't know 35 hours in that I was

0:56.1

apparently playing on hard mode and there's like an easier mode where you

1:00.9

don't die and also you can fly. Oh, you weren't on fly mode? Oh, that's it. I

1:06.4

think the whole joy of it is that you fly around. Yeah, I was in survival mode

1:10.7

and there's so much fall damage and it's fine. It's fine. I think Claudia it

1:17.4

sounds like your Minecraft experience is just it's a big metaphor for your

1:22.4

life under COVID. Does that seem fair? That's that's that's very dark, Alan. At

1:27.9

certain point, if you dig into it too much.

1:36.8

Hello, everyone and welcome to rational security 2.0 aka rational security. No

1:42.8

time to rationalize. I am one of your hosts, Scott R. Anderson and I'm here with

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