Goody, humans. This is uncomfortable conversations. Welcome to the bugs, which is technically a panel chat show about science and tech related news, but which actually uses nerd headlines to discuss bigger questions of life, the universe, and everything my co-chatteras. Today are Joel Pearson and Radio. Joel, you're an inveterate frequent guests this week. Just said by accident that you're on twice. We're not actually, more skeptical people will think that we're recording this on the same day and being lazy, but there's actually a two-month gap between your last appearance. And I changed my t-shirt, from white to black, if my memory serves me right. If you can't see Joel's t-shirt, you have to come to YouTube instead of listening to the podcast, and you'll see Joel's beautiful face and also the beautiful face of Rad. Hello, Rad. Do you want to introduce yourself? Maybe, or do you want to just, you can plug things at the end, but like, not now, but not now. You can plug things whenever you want to. My name's Rad. I'm a technology journalist and media presenter over everything and everywhere. And I just really love nerdy stuff. Rad knows everything about everything. Except for probably cooking. Do you cook? No, I do cook. You do. Oh, really? Wow. Is there anything, what's the feel in which you're least intended?

Let's start there.

Maths.

I'm actually quite bad at maths.

Call yourself a nerd.

Well, I don't think.

Maybe you don't.

I don't think that maths is necessarily a key component of being a nerd.

I think that there's multiple disciplines that, you know.

Well, not with AI now, right? You don't need to program. You don't need to do any of that anymore. It's true. And also, like, even if you look at some of the mathier sciences like physics, a lot of it's also conceptual. So while I may not be able to do the calculations per se, I can still understand and talk about the concepts. You're sounding like those people who wear t-shirts that say imagination is more important than knowledge, Einstein. And it's true.

It's always true, Josh. It's like the fact that Einstein once said that is now the bane of his heritage

because idiots use it as an excuse to not know things. And who's the bigger idiot? The idiot or the idiot that asked the idiot to come onto the show?

That's a very good point.

The first human has received a brain implant from Elon Musk's Neurrelink company this week.

I love this.

I mean, are we getting to the point at which you can sort of just test on people the way you can test on

rockets and if you blow their brains up then that's just part of the process the learning process

what do we make of this is the future going to involve human brain interfaces and is this

brilliant or loopy on the part of mr mask red in fact do you want to explain what neuralink is

do you know what neuralink is yes sourlink is a brain computer interface, which essentially means they put implants into the brain.

It has hardware that reads messages or, you know, your neurons firing. It interprets those messages,

and then theoretically it will control something. So. And where's the hardware? Is it in your head or do you have to wheel around a little trolley with a computer on it? Commodore 64. It actually depends on who's given you the implant. So with Neurrelink, they currently have a little cable that comes out of your skull, out of your head. Seriously? Yeah, which feels a bit, I don't like, I don't like a cable that goes into.

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