Well, what's up my friends? This is the Jason Stapleton program, the entrepreneurial

podcast that breaks down the skills you need to start and grow a business that creates

more wealth and freedom for you. That sounds like you're jam, let's get started.

Oh, welcome back everybody. This show's a little late coming out today for good reason.

I have an incredible interview with you. As you guys know, I've been sending

out some emails about it, assuming that you're on the email list, about the copywriting clinic

happening on November 17th and 18th that's in about about two weeks from now a little less than

two weeks away and I thought it would be nice to bring in somebody whose business

it was in the business of copywriting, someone who does it professionally.

And I happen to know a lot of people like that, but one in particular that I thought would

really provide some unique insight is a guy named Andrew Gould and I believe it's Gould it might be

gold G-O-U-L-D I forgot to ask him I should ask him about that and he is a professional

copywriter that I met on X, as if I needed another reason to promote people getting on X and actually using the platform the way it was intended to make connections and to find people who have like

interests and to build audience all the more reason I'm doing these spaces now

where once a week I'm getting together with a couple of other guys who, you know, combined I think we have 60 years worth of marketing and business experience and we're just talking about different aspects of it.

The one this Wednesday we're going to be talking about is on this concept of never retiring.

And if that is something that, you know, kind of is a shock to you or is something that you're like,

that sounds awful. Well, first of all, maybe you're in the wrong business, but more to the point is that for a lot of people in a lot of industries people don't retire

and they enjoy what they do and they're able to do it long into the future or into old age

So that they can stay active and stay mentally fit and keep

cash flowing the entire time that they're alive.

And so I want to, the three of us want to kind of talk about that because I think all of us are kind of in and never retire mindsets.

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