I think the general public is getting second tired of this burgeoning benefits bill.

I just feel that we need to see more fire in the belly from the leader of the opposition

if she wants to hang on to her role.

I think the big difference is that Rachel Reeves has crashed the economy in a way that Liz

trust didn't.

If Kirstarmer's a right-wing Prime Minister, I'm Osama bin Laden, I tell you.

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And me, Liam Halligan. Not content with upping defence spending and posing in military uniform,

Kirstama has further developed his persona as a right-wing prime minister by overseeing some hard-nosed reform of the welfare state, which Labour, of course, introduced in the aftermath of World War II.

The government, welfare secretary Liz Kendall, in particular, is right. The UK simply cannot

afford to sustain the recent bluning increases in the bill for health-related benefits,

particularly for mental illness. And again, ministers are right that in many cases,

the best medicine for those marooned on out-of-work benefits is to get at least some kind of job.

The truth-telling habit seems to be infectious, because while Labour seems to be at least talking sense about welfare reform,

Tory leader Kemi Badernock has been unleashing a reality check when it comes to the UK's net zero policies.

On Tuesday, and probably her most important speech since becoming leader of the opposition last November,

Bajenock lacerated her party's previous record on

net zero, bemoaning high taxes on the drilling of oil and gas in the North Sea, heavily

criticizing rules to ban new petrol and diesel cars by 2035, and ruling the holy ground

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