The Bund: Fighting Fascism, Fighting Zionism (w/ Molly Crabapple)
Know Your Enemy
Matthew Sitman
4.7 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2026
⏱️ 86 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome listeners to episode 133 of Know Your Enemy. I'm Sam Adler-Bell, one of your podcast co-hosts, |
| 0:06.7 | and I'm here by myself because my great friend Matt Sittman is having dental work done this week, |
| 0:12.0 | which makes it very difficult to podcast. I'm a little anxious about doing this introduction because |
| 0:17.5 | Matt says that when I do the introductions by myself, I always sound really |
| 0:21.1 | weird and awkward and not at all how I normally sound on the podcast. Listeners, you can be the judge of |
| 0:28.2 | this. And in fact, I would appreciate it even if I do sound weird if you tell Matt that I sound |
| 0:33.4 | fine and normal and it's not a big deal so that this is not a problem for me in the future. |
| 0:38.6 | I have a great episode for you today, dear listeners. I was joined today by the artist and author |
| 0:47.4 | and activist Molly Crabapple, who most recently is the author of Here Where We Live is Our Country, |
| 0:53.6 | The Story of the Jewish Boond. |
| 0:56.0 | This is a book that I was looking forward to for actually several years. |
| 0:59.5 | It's now out. You can buy it from One World Books. |
| 1:04.1 | Of course, there'll be links to buy it in the show notes. |
| 1:07.1 | But for those listeners who aren't familiar with it, the boon was a Jewish revolutionary |
| 1:12.6 | party that was founded in 1897 in the Tsarist Empire. It was secular, socialist, proudly Jewish, |
| 1:20.0 | and uncompromisingly anti-Zionist. It was founded by young Jewish Marxists who had the twin |
| 1:25.7 | goals of overthrowing the Tsar and creating democratic socialism in Russia. |
| 1:30.2 | There is so much in this book that is relevant to our political present. I think it especially spoke to me as a Jewish anti-Zionist and a socialist. |
| 1:40.1 | And I suspect those of you listeners who share those identities will also find this conversation |
| 1:45.2 | extremely inspiring. But it's also a really fascinating account of, you know, of the 20th |
| 1:50.9 | century in its biggest upheavals, including the two Russian revolutions, obviously World War II |
| 1:57.6 | and the Holocaust and the founding of the state of Israel. I say to Molly in this |
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