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The Budget Bill from Hell

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Sam Stein and John Avlon take a close look at the GOP’s chaotic budget bill, with deep Medicaid cuts, Trump-era tax games, and a rushed vote few even understood.

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0:00.0

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0:54.8

Salt, everything involved, all he wants to talk about, really. But before we get into that, subscribe to the feed, click that button, very important. All right. So, John, we've been like trying to schedule this thing for like a day and a half now because it's such a moving target. We didn't know when. We did, right? Because now we know.

0:56.0

Now we know.

0:59.5

But it was just sort of like watching it unfold.

1:05.3

I was just, it was, what I was struck by was how crazed the entire process felt.

1:10.9

At no point did we really actually see the legislative language until like a few minutes before the Rules Committee voted and then like a few hours before the whole House voted. Totally abnormal

1:14.9

stuff. But beyond the process, I, you know, I'm curious what you ran for office last cycle.

1:21.4

You're in the mix. You know the stuff. Like what did your takeaway about what the House Republicans,

1:26.0

especially the frontliners, decided to do here?

1:29.2

Look, this bill's a shit show to the extent that nobody knew what was actually in it when they voted,

1:34.8

and it manages to simultaneously have massive cuts that will hurt real people where they live.

1:40.7

I mean, there are automatic Medicare cuts that are set in here, in addition

1:44.2

of the Medicaid cuts, the food stamps, and everything else, but it still blows up the deficit,

1:48.8

hugely. And so those are the big factors. In some ways, it's the worst of all worlds. Yes,

1:53.9

they passed it barely, narrowly. But the fact that it simultaneously guts people who need it most, it shreds the safety net.

2:04.9

And, you know, keeping in mind that like 34% of people on Medicaid are kids, right?

2:11.6

And then it simultaneously blows up the deficit, which should codify for anybody with any doubt

2:17.4

who stands to get

2:18.4

suckered beyond the idea that Republicans stand for fiscal responsibility. We got 40 years

2:22.2

a test case here. Republicans only care about the deaths and the debt when Democrats are president.

2:28.1

But, you know, I think Jillian Ted had a great column about, you know, there's being called the

2:33.1

triple B bill, which is also the...

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