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Kermode & Mayo’s Take

The Brutalist + Mike Leigh & Marianne Jean-Baptiste on Hard Truths

Kermode & Mayo’s Take

Sony Music

Tv & Film, Film Reviews, Tv Reviews, Film Interviews

4.42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

‘The Brutalist’ is the epic structure on the horizon of this week’s movie releases; Mark reviews this fictional biopic of Hungarian architect László Tóth (Adrien Brody), a Holocaust survivor who arrives in America as an immigrant in 1947. Bauhaus trained and revered in his home country, László finds himself anonymous in a sometimes hostile USA—but gets a commission from a wealthy industrialist (Guy Pearce) that looks like the break he needs. Steven Soderbergh’s ‘Presence’ hits cinemas too this week—a ghost story in a troubled family home, shot from the perspective of the ghost. Plus don’t miss our ‘Flight Risk’ Embargo Special, coming up this  evening after 11pm, when the review embargo on the film lifts. Our guests this week are one of Britain’s best-known filmmakers, and one of its most revered dramatic actors: Mike Leigh and Marianne Jean-Baptiste. Their new film ‘Hard Truths’ hits UK cinemas next week. It follows the day-to-day life of Jean-Baptiste's Pansy, an explosively angry and depressed woman grieving her mother, whose barbed judgements of strangers and family alike can be searingly funny. Pansy seems to long for connection in her ailing relationships with her husband, son and sister, but is prone to pushing others away and further isolating herself. Simon sits down with the creative duo to talk about building this complex character, Leigh’s unusual working methods, and more. We’ll also take a moment this week to remember David Lynch, who we lost on 15th January, aged 78. One of the true greats of cinema, his singular surreal vision has inspired millions across his five-decade career. From Eraserhead and Blue Velvet to Twin Peaks, we hear from you about what his groundbreaking work meant. Timecodes (for Vanguardistas listening ad-free): Presence Review: 10:44 Mike Leigh & Marianne Jean Baptiste Interview: 28:57 Laughter lift: 41:51 The Brutalist Review: 42:32 Remembering David Lynch: 55:21 You can contact the show by emailing [email protected] or you can find us on social media, @KermodeandMayo EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts To advertise on this show contact: [email protected] And to find out more about Sony’s new show Origins with Cush Jumbo, click here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Don't miss The Brutalist.

0:03.0

What do you think?

0:04.0

An electrifying cinematic experience.

0:07.0

Starring Adrian Brody, Felicity Jones and Guy Pearce.

0:12.0

Fate brought us together.

0:14.0

Winner of three Golden Globes and now nominated for nine Bafters,

0:19.0

including Best Film and Best Actor.

0:22.5

Welcome to America.

0:25.2

The Brutalist in Cinemas Now, rated 18. Mark, I'd like to introduce you to a new word.

0:43.4

Hello, Simon.

0:44.3

Hi, do you want my new word?

0:46.2

I feel I'm going to hear it anyway.

0:48.2

Yeah, I think you'll like it.

0:49.5

Okay, go on.

0:50.7

It arrived in my life, courtesy of Susie Dent, who is the provider of many useful and topical words.

0:59.3

And she did this on Blue Sky, which I saw just a few moments ago.

1:03.8

And I thought, I know someone who might actually use this word in actual conversation with actual real people. Okay. And the word is

1:14.4

unassinous. Okay. It means it's a seven, it's yes, it's a 17th, it dates from the 17th century

1:24.1

and it means, and you'll be amazed that this hasn't been part of the general

1:28.2

discourse for a while, it means united in stupidity.

1:34.2

Its literal meaning is one ass.

1:37.7

One ass to serve us all.

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