Welcome to the broad experience, the show about women in the workplace and success.

I'm Ashley Naltight.

This time, men discuss their feelings about women in the workplace, and those feelings aren't always warm.

I was told that actually it was going to go to my female co-worker, and it enraged me.

And I felt incredibly resentful.

I thought that this isn't how it's supposed to go.

And we've talked quite a bit on this show about being a woman in tech.

What does the landscape look like from the guy's perspective?

Being in an environment, especially on the engineering side, where it is predominantly male,

it just sort of becomes the wallpaper.

You stop noticing that there aren't any women when there should be.

But he is trying to do something about it.

Coming up. Benjamin DeBara is in his early 30s.

For years after college, he lived in New York, working in the opera world.

Now he lives just outside Washington, D.C., and he has two jobs.

He does marketing for an arts organization, and he works for a coffee

company. From the outside looking in, working in the arts and working in the coffee industry,

they are seemingly very progressive industries, and in many ways they are. They're very inclusive.

But I think that sexism still is part of those environments, and there are very few women in power in the arts.

I mean, there certainly are some, but many of them tend to be gay women.

Ben's gay himself, and he shares a house with a female couple.

They're married, and he says the three of them spend a lot of time talking about gender and gender stereotypes.

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