Welcome to the Broad Experience, the show about women, the workplace and success.

I'm Ashley Milm Tite.

This time on the show, we talk to men who stay home and women who are the main breadwinners.

I think a lot of it is relief for me, thinking that I can really just pay attention to, you know, seeing patients

and taking care of patients the best that I can do without having to necessarily worry about

getting out and picking them up from daycare.

And just like women, male caregivers get a lot of unsolicited advice.

I actually had someone say this was career suicide. I'll never forget that phrase.

Coming up, reversing traditional roles and what that means for everyone.

If you've been listening for a while, you may remember a podcast I released last year called Stop Fixing Women Start Fixing Companies.

My guest was Aviva Wittenberg Cox.

One of the points she made was that women as a group won't progress at work until more men are able to focus on their role as parents.

It's often managers who talk about women and children, mothers and children.

They have to start talking about parents and children.

And they really have to let fathers be fathers if they ever want to get women to be leaders. In other words,

until we recognize that not all men want the corner office and lots of men would love to spend more time at home, women don't have a chance of true equality in the workplace. A few months

after that interview, I got an email from a listener called Catherine Clifton.

She said, I couldn't have the career I'm having if it weren't for my husband staying at home with our daughter.

Catherine and her husband are my first guests on today's show. They spoke to me on Skype from their current home in the Middle East.

One of the reasons that I reached out to you is because I think Daph's been a really great stay-at-home dad, and it's so interesting to see other people's reactions to us.

And I've had to learn how to handle that.

I think I let it affect me at first, and then I learned to say, you know, maybe women is getting some of the negative feedback as well, which is

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