The Brit Awards. Targeted adverts online. The ages of motherhood. Welsh Rugby.

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.2 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

The Brits scrapped their best male and best female awards last year in favour of gender-neutral prizes. This year no women are on the shortlist for best artist - won by Adele last year - though are nominated in other categories. Social media has been awash with fans of musicians like Charlie XCX, Florence Welch, Mabel and Ella Henderson asking why they'd been overlooked. We hear from journalist Laura Snapes the Guardian's music editor and Vick Bain who's worked in the music industry for 25 years, was the CEO of the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers & Authors and founder of The F-List directory of UK female musicians. Several former employees at the Welsh Rugby Union have told the BBC about a ‘toxic’ culture of sexism at the organisation. Nuala McGovern is joined by former Wales rugby international and Labour MP Tonia Antoniazzi. Do you ever wonder why you’re being shown particular adverts online? Nuala speaks to one woman, Hannah Tomes, who is being advertised egg donation banks despite having no interest in this – she wonders if she’s being advertised to because of her gender – we will seek to find out if she’s right and speak to the BBC’s Technology Editor Zoe Kleinman. Figures from the ONS show that there are now twice as many women giving birth over the age of 40 as there are having children under the age of 20. But does the age you become a mother change the way you experience parenting? We hear from two women who had children at very different points in their lives…Lucy Baker the founder of the blog Geriatric Mum and Lauren Crosby Medlicott a freelance journalist who has written about her experience as a young mum. Presenter Nuala McGovern Producer Beverley Purcell

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0:00.0	BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.
0:04.8	Hello, this is Nulam Agarvern, and you're listening to the Woman's Hour podcast.
0:10.4	Hello, I you're very welcome to our program and good to have your company today.
0:14.8	And we're going to begin by looking at allegations of sexism at the Welch Rugby Union as former
0:20.5	employees speak out, the Welch Labor MP, Tanya Antoniazzi, has written to the Prince of
0:26.2	Wales as patron of the W.O.U. for a meeting, too. And I quote, create a better future for women
0:32.4	and girls in rugby in Wales. What she is here, so we're going to speak to her about what
0:36.8	she thinks needs to change and why. We're also going to talk about algorithms. Why are you
0:43.2	seeing the ads that you were seeing when you scroll? Well, I went into my settings on Instagram.
0:47.4	Here are some of the ad topics that I am being shown. Arabian horses, monster trucks,
0:53.2	and the Virginia Cavaliers basketball team. Why? I don't know. I don't think I've been expressed
0:58.6	and interested in any of those topics, but our guests will help us decipher why you're
1:03.0	targeted with certain ads and what you can do to change what is popping up on your feeds.
1:07.7	Egg donation is what one of our guests has been bombarded with. The number to text is 84844,
1:14.4	and the text will be charged at your standard message rate. Here's a line. This is new numbers
1:20.1	out from the ONS, the Office for National Statistics. They're about motherhood and they caught
1:25.2	R.I. There are now twice as many women giving birth over the age of 40 as there are having children
1:33.1	as teenagers in England and Wales. So the average age, 30.9 years old. And I'm wondering,
1:39.9	you know, what age were you when you heard kids? And how do you think it played into your parenting?
1:45.6	Looking back, would you do it differently? Or maybe you're thinking about kids and also thinking
1:50.4	about your age, like when is the IDL age? I think everybody says you're never ready, but however,
1:55.6	we do have one elder and one younger mum joining us to talk it through. Some of you must have
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