Hey, super podcast fans. It's yardly. I just wanted to pop in with a quick announcement

about Small Town Dix season 12. It drops on April 21st. April 21st, Mark your calendars.

We will see you there.

And police stations across the country, officers start their shifts in the briefing room.

It's a place where law enforcement can speak openly and candidly about safety, training,

policy, crime trends, and more. We think it's time to invite you in, so pull up a chair.

Welcome to the briefing room.

Today's briefing comes at the request of someone you all know, yardly Smith. Hi, yardly.

Hi Dave. Hi. So happy to be here. We're also joined by my brother Dan. Hello.

Yardly's question today is inspired and part by conversations we had last week with defense

attorney, Lisa. So, yardly, I'm turning it over to you. Thank you, Dave. I'm really excited

about this subject. So we call this episode of the briefing room the dance because you

guys have often talked about the way you interview suspects. You call that the dance. And I

think it's one of the most fascinating aspects of your job. And it's funny. You guys kind

of, you often kind of gloss over it. But the way you interview, the way you do the dance

is so nuanced that I think our listeners would really enjoy hearing your perspective on

it. Like how do you conduct a suspect interview, particularly if you're dealing with somebody

who's done a person crime, as you say. So they've hurt someone injured them, violated

another person in the worst possible way. So how do you interview a person like that

and gain their trust so that they don't shut down and say, I want a lawyer and then

the interview is over. Uh-huh. Interviews for me, I separated them kind of into two categories.

One is I'm familiar with the case because I've been investigating it for days or weeks,

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