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The Brian Nichols Show: Why Are Medicine Prices So High in America?

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Education, Business, Comedy, Self-improvement, News, Politics

4.6672 Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Is the war on PBMs really about helping patients - or just another power grab dressed up as reform? In this eye-opening episode of The Brian Nichols Show, we rip the mask off the growing crusade against pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs). Critics claim PBMs are behind rising drug costs, but is that the full story - or just the version Big Pharma wants you to believe? If you’ve ever looked at your pharmacy receipt and wondered why your medication costs more than your electric bill, you won’t want to miss this deep dive. We have a new show on Lions of Liberty! The Politicks Podcast! Be sure to subscribe to the standalone Politicks Podcast feed. This is the absolute best way to support the show! Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And remember, they’re all Blood Suckers! Studio Sponsor: ⁠Cardio Miracle⁠ - "Unlock the secret to a healthier heart, increased energy levels, and transform your cardiovascular fitness like never before.": ⁠CardioMiracle.com/TBNS⁠ Brian welcomes economist and researcher Satya Marar from the Mercatus Center to break down how PBMs actually work, why they’re being blamed for high drug prices, and what the real drivers of healthcare inflation are. Together, they dismantle the most common talking points against PBMs, including rebate manipulation, lack of transparency, spread pricing, and claims of collusion with insurers. It's a masterclass in separating economic fact from political fiction. We also unpack the emotional tug-of-war between small-town pharmacies and corporate chains. What happens when “Fred’s Pharmacy” can’t compete with CVS and Walgreens? Is it worth paying more for drugs to keep the local guy afloat - or are there smarter ways to balance access, cost, and community values without wrecking the system? But here’s the kicker: what if the real culprit isn't the PBMs at all, but a broken government pricing system and global freeloading by other countries? Yeah, we go there. From Medicare’s price models to how the U.S. subsidizes R&D for the world, we expose what’s actually driving your pill prices through the roof. If you're sick of the soundbites and want real answers about the mess that is American drug pricing - this episode delivers. Tune in, take notes, and walk away with a smarter, sharper view of healthcare economics than most politicians will ever have. Order ⁠Cardio Miracle⁠ (⁠CardioMiracle.com/TBNS⁠) for 15% off and take a step towards better heart health and overall well-being!Submit Listener Questions to ⁠[email protected]⁠ to hear your questions and perspectives answered and shared each and every week! WATCH The Brian Nichols Show, available on ⁠YouTube⁠ & ⁠Rumble⁠. With over 990 episodes featuring local candidates, elected officials, economists, CEOs, and more, each show educates, enlightens, and informs. Follow Brian on social media: X.com/Twitter ⁠(https://www.briannicholsshow.com/twitter⁠) & Facebook (⁠https://www.briannicholsshow.com/facebook⁠) Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to ⁠The Brian Nichols Show ⁠for more captivating interviews and insights into common sense solutions for local problems! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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about. Welcome to the Brian Nichols Show. Well, hey there, folks. Brian Nichols here on another fun,

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filled episode, yes, of the Brian Nichols Show. I am, as always, your humble hopes, joining you

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world cardio miracle. So if you all learn how to lower your resting heart rate, lower your

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blood pressure while improving your pump at the gym, stick around. We're going to talk about

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that more later in today's episode. But first, will curbing competition help lower drug prices?

1:14.6

That is the question of an article we're answering today.

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And to join us to discuss all that and more is from the Mercatus Center, Satya Marar.

1:22.0

Satya, welcome to the show.

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How you doing?

1:23.7

Hey, good.

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