This is the Blood Red Podcast from the Liverpool Echo, giving you the inside track on all the big talking points from Anfield.

Hello and welcome to the latest bottom line podcast from the Blood Red channel,

myself Matt Addison and our business football writer Dave Powell.

This is the third episode of the show with the first one on Redbird Capital, Cherry Cardinal

and LeGron James.

The second one was on the European Super League of course with Kiran Maguire.

This episode though is with a different guest this time, a European football executive and

investor Jordan Gardner, who's got roles with Swansea City. a European football executive and investor,

Jordan Gardner, who's got roles with Swansea City and Undoor,

as well as Danish Super League side, Helsinki.

Jordan, welcome to the podcast.

It's been an absolutely crazy week for all of us, and I'm sure it's been no different for yourself

Yes, yes it has thank you for having me I'm excited to talk about this topic because it is it is fascinating not necessarily in a good way

But it's an interesting topic that's for sure.

Yeah, I suppose we should sort of start by clarifying your position on the European Super League. I mean, as this all sort of began to unfold, what were you thinking?

Was this a big shock to you and what were your sort of initial thoughts on it?

No, I mean it's not surprising.

Obviously there's been discussions kind of on and off on this topic for a number of years now,

and certainly having an American mindset, knowing the way American investors think,

you had to think that most of these bigger clubs

eventually were going to continue to try to get a bigger slice of the pie and

capture the revenue themselves. So it didn't surprise me. I think what surprised me

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