Welcome to sideline sanity with me, Michelle Tafoya. Please subscribe. We'd love to have you with us every single day that we drop an episode. Today, like every other, is important. Chris Clem spent 27 and a half years in federal law enforcement. He was a chief patrol agent, supporting law enforcement, first responders and veterans,

U.S. Border Patrol out of Sam Houston State University. That's the short version.

He's spent a life at the border, and he knows what's going on down there.

And the chaos and the trends from the time that he started in the mid-90s to now.

It's changed a lot.

He's had a front row seat, and I think that needs to be listened to.

I think we need to understand what the Border Patrol is going through, what they see.

And he's got a lot of perspective on this.

He knows there are criminals coming through.

He also knows there are necessary workers coming through and families coming through.

So he sees this from a lot of different angles.

And we're going to get his position on it and talk about what can be done to stem the tide of chaos that just led to 38 people just south of the border

dying in a fire at a migrant center because of a protest.

This is hurting people on both sides of the border.

We'll hear from Chief Chris Clem next.

For nearly three decades, she's reported the action from the sidelines.

She started very young.

She's covered the NBA, NFL, Olympics, and the college football and basketball national championships.

And now, during these insane times in our world, Michelle Tofoya thinks we need a serious

dose of sanity. This is sideline sanity with your host, one of the sanest people on planet Earth.

Michelle Tofoya.

Chief Chris Km, thank you so much for being part of the show today.

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