Hello, I'm David Kern.

I'm Heidi White.

And I'm Tim McIntosh.

And you are listening to Close Reads, a podcast for the Incurable Reader on which we are going to be discussing, well, answering and discussing your questions about Walter Wengerins juniors, the book of the Duncow.

Not just Walter Wenger.

Walter Wengerin Juniors.

I wonder what kind of books Walter Wangerin Sr Senior wrote. I guess he was a Lutheran pastor is what I read on the Facebook page.

I didn't know that before. So maybe he wrote something. Well, we are here to discuss the book

of the Duncran and to answer the questions that you posted.

There is a great many of them.

And so we're going to just dig right in.

We have about an hour today.

We have a kind of a hard stop today.

So we're going to just have to get right to it and start with Kelly's question.

What is the dun cow?

She says, I definitely get the sense that she represents the paraclete to Chantaclair

and his response to her is extremely allegorical in its feeling.

But I get that the book is not a one-to-one allegory.

Why would the Holy Spirit or the effect of that presence be represented as a cow?

Is there a medieval connection here that I'm missing?

Now, Tim,

I believe in the last episode, you also use the phrase, what is the done cow? I think maybe those were the exact words. They might have been. So then naturally, it seems suiting,

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