Twice a week, Van Leathen and Rachel Lindsay

dissect the biggest topics in black culture,

politics, and sports on their show Higher Learning.

They discuss the most important and timely conversations

while also frequently inviting guests on the podcast

and occasionally debating each other.

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Between forgetting the sellotape,

trying to squeeze eight people around a six-seater table

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