Welcome back to the book club. I'm Michael Knowles. This month we are going to be talking

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Very important to get a good education.

Very difficult to get a good education these days.

As Alan Bloom wrote, what, 30 years ago now, 35 years ago now, in the

closing of the American mind, how higher education has failed democracy and impoverished the souls of today's students.

I'm very pleased to be joined by an education expert, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, the author of the best... an My true friend of many years, Max Eden.

Max, thank you for coming on.

So good to be with you, true friend.

So, you know, I'm using that word or that phrase rather,

carefully.

Yes, as we should.

As we should because this is, there, I was going to say this is at the heart of the

closing of the American mind and it is, but the book is about so much. The book, if I had one takeaway from the

closing the American mind, it would be perhaps the nature of friendship, perhaps the

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