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Hello and welcome to The Spectator's Book Club podcast.

I'm Sam Leif, the literary editor of The Spectator,

and this week I'm very pleased to be joined by Sudhir Hazari Singh,

who is a fellow of Balliol College, Oxford,

and his new book is Daring to be Free, Rebellion and Resistance of the Enslaved in the Atlantic World. Now, an awful lot of ink has been spilled on the subject of the Atlantic slave trade over the last hundred years or so,

but this is a book which seeks, if I'm getting this right, city to substantially expand, if not altogether overturn,

our received ideas about the movements against slavery and towards

abolition.

Explain to me how that is and what angle we're coming from, what needed correcting.

Thanks, Sam, and thanks for having me.

So this book started really as a series of questions that I had in the background of my mind when I was

finishing my previous book, which was a biography of Toussaint-Luverture, the hero of the Haitian

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