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Hi friends and welcome to the papaya podcast. I'm your hostess,

Trine Hermosta, Sarah Nicole, and each week I'm going to be dishing out some sweetness mixed

in with some seeds of wisdom or something like that. So get ready to get inspired,

get candid, get real because we are all in this digital space together.

All right, welcome back. Special episode. She and I have never been to a therapy session before

and so we're starting with a sex therapy. How do you how do you feel?

Ready. I honestly didn't think that you're going to do this with me. I was like he's going to

clam off. He'll talk about anything but I don't know that I'll talk about this but I just think

it's so cool. I think it's so cool we're doing this. I hope it's a lot of fun. I've talked

to Vanessa before I follow her on Instagram. You don't. This is all new for you but I adore her

and I think it's going to I think it's going to be a good time. Do you have a question?

I don't clam so I don't know where you got that but what's clam mean?

You said I was going to clam up. Oh, I feel like you could get quiet.

Like at a funeral? Yeah, maybe this isn't this wouldn't be back in time. Maybe.

Yeah, that's true. This isn't the comparative experience to a funeral though. I hope that's not what

we're saying. No, that's what you're saying. Okay. Well, we're going to invite her into the room now

not actually the physical room but our zoom room that we're in. Vanessa, welcome back.

I am so excited to be back. It was definitely made my day when I got your message. Oh my gosh.

Well, I was just saying before we started, I I knew that having Shane on the show has been

an incredibly popular experience for people but I was like, this is just I always talk about

well, I'll talk about sex with Shane and then I talk about sex to other people. It like experts

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