The bombshell interview that's rattled MAGA
The News Agents
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🗓️ 17 December 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Vanity Fair may be contenders for this years 'scoop of the year' after securing a series of interviews with Trump's closest White House ally, Susie Wiles. The candid interviews provide a rare window into the West Wing and Trump's inner circle. She went much further than perhaps the President might have expected - describing the teetotal President as having “an alcoholic’s personality", the Vice President as a "conspiracy theorist", admitting the tariffs had been "painful", and suggesting the administration's approach to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal had been lacking.
Why has she been airing this dirty laundry in public? Why does Trump appear to be standing by her? And are we seeing ever mounting fractures in MAGA-land?
Later, has Kemi Badenoch managed to turn the page on a dismal few years for the Tory party? And Starmer's Christmas mircale in the House of Commons.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.6 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:13.0 | I've seen so many people who will say one thing to the president's face, Democrats and Republicans, and then we'll do the exact opposite behind the scenes. |
| 0:21.2 | You know what I really... |
| 0:22.1 | You know what they are. |
| 0:24.0 | And you know why I really love Susie Wiles? |
| 0:26.0 | Because Susie is who she is in the president's presence. |
| 0:31.1 | She's the same exact person when the president isn't around. |
| 0:34.4 | I've never seen Susie Wiles say something to the president and then go and counteract |
| 0:41.3 | him or subvert his will behind the scenes. And that's what you wanted a staffer. Because as much as I love |
| 0:47.3 | Susie, the American people didn't elect any staffer. They elected the president of the United States. |
| 0:53.8 | That is Vice President J.D. Vance, |
| 0:55.8 | talking about the White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, after a bombshell interview in which |
| 1:02.7 | she says things about the president and his inner circle that no one expected her to say out loud. |
| 1:10.7 | Chiefs of staff give interviews after they've left office, not while they're still in it. |
| 1:16.9 | And the question is, how damaging is this to Donald Trump? |
| 1:20.9 | Because what she reveals is what the White House is really like. |
| 1:25.8 | Welcome to the newsagents. |
| 1:34.1 | Music what the White House is really like. Welcome to the newsagents. The news agents. It's John. |
| 1:42.5 | It's Emily. It's Lewis. And Susie Wales is a character and she is powerful and she's discreet. |
| 1:50.0 | She is behind the scenes until now except over the past year she has been giving a whole series of on the record interviews to vanity fair kind of chronicling what is |
| 1:57.5 | happening in the white house what is going right what what is going wrong, and bang, this has exploded this week with the publication of part one of the Susie Wiles interview. |
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