Hey, everyone, welcome back to the energy blueprint podcast.

I'm your host, Ari Witten.

And today I have with me a very special guest, my good friend and now partner in the energy blueprint,

somebody who works with me, who I hired

because he is absolutely brilliant at what he does.

As a researcher, he's one of the most knowledgeable people

in nutrition and health science that I have ever met,

literally in my entire life.

And he brings a level of understanding

of nuance and complexity and understanding of the different

perspectives and an ability to cut through myths and pseudoscience and speak to the actual

evidence that is just absolutely world class.

Funny story, I actually, a little more than a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago, I posted in,

you know, an evidence-based group on Facebook saying, hey, I'm really looking to hire a researcher

to help me out with some projects. And basically, the person that I'm looking to hire is someone

just like Alex Leaf. And I literally said that in the in the in the

post that I wrote. And at the time, Alex was the senior researcher at examine.com. I was very familiar

from a couple years of reading his posts online. I was always very impressed with his level of knowledge.

I said, I want to hire somebody just like this. And then about six months later, as luck would have it, he

reached out to me and said, hey, you're still interested? Because I'm interested too. And so,

you know, it's been a beautiful working relationship ever since. He's been helping me a ton,

co-writing the next book I'm coming out with on Sunlight, which is epic. And he's done a phenomenal

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