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The Blockspace Pod: Understanding ERCOT’s Massive Overhaul w/ Tom Kleckner

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🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

ERCOT is overhauling how it processes and approves large load interconnections. Here are the changes that are under consideration. Subscribe to the Blockspace newsletter! Welcome back to The Blockspace Podcast! Today, Tom Kleckner, a veteran energy correspondent at RTO Insider, joins us to talk about how ERCOT is overhauling the Texas grid to handle the unprecedented AI boom. We dive into the massive 233GW interconnection queue, the impact of Senate Bill 6 on transmission costs, and new reliability measures like DRRS. Tom breaks down the "batch process" for large loads and whether Bitcoin miners or AI data centers are better at balancing the grid. We also touch on the future of Texas energy, from gas plants to small modular nuclear reactors. Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com Notes: * 70% demand jump to 145GW by 2031. * Interconnection queue reached 233GW. * SB6 shifts transmission costs to large loads. * Large loads defined as 75MW or greater. * Texas Energy Fund has $10 billion available. * 73% of queue requests from data centers. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 01:51 Interconnection queue changes 06:46 Kill switch 08:50 Batch system 11:22 What's DRRS? 13:39 Is DRRS an ancillary service? 16:13 Storage (battery) 18:22 4CP 22:00 Rate of change 24:18 Current state of changes 26:24 Timeline 27:33 Baseload & ghost loads 👉CleanSpark, America's Bitcoin Miner! CleanSpark (Nasdaq: CLSK) is a market-leading data center developer with a proven track record of success. We own a portfolio of power, land, and data centers across the United States powered by globally competitive energy prices. Sitting at the intersection of Bitcoin, energy, operational excellence and capital stewardship, we optimize our infrastructure to deliver superior returns to our shareholders. Monetizing low-cost, high reliability energy by producing a global emerging critical resource – compute – positions us to prosper in an ever-changing world. 👉 FBOX, Cooling for Bitcoin Mining and the AI Data Center Transformation FBOX is the global leader in cooling system manufacturing, with the #1 shipment volume of bitcoin mining containers worldwide. Not only powering for the strongest hashrate, their technology also helps mining infrastructure transform into AI data centers. Backed by the largest production scale on earth, global deployment capability, and a full range of cooling solutions, they are shaping the future of compute. 👉 Luxor, Leaders In Bitcoin Mining and Compute Power! Get game-changing mining results with Luxor Firmware. Boost hashrate, cut energy costs, protect your hardware, and maximize mining profits with LuxOS. Published thrice weekly, "The Blockspace Pod" interviews the best builders and operators in the Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining landscape. Subscribe to get notifications when we publish interviews on Tuesday, our news show on Friday, and our Writer's Room talk show on Saturday!

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0:00.0

There are a lot of changes coming down the pipe for Urquat as the Texas grid kind of grapples with this AI boom and what it'll mean.

0:07.7

Latest long-term forecast indicates peak power demand will jump about 70% to 145 gigs in 2031.

0:15.7

Everyone wants to know how much of that load is really coming.

0:18.5

That surge is kind of outgrown Urquas process.

0:21.5

SB6 shifts transmission costs to the large load users.

0:25.4

It establishes grid reliability protection measures

0:28.2

and requires some upfront financial guarantees.

0:31.4

The Irkhov CEO has said,

0:33.0

we just want large loads to pay their fair share.

0:38.7

Welcome back to the BlockspacePod, brought to you by CleanSpark.

0:42.0

By the end of 2025, Urcott's five-year large load interconnection queue had swelled to

0:47.1

226 gigawatts, and now Ercott's playing catch-up as data center companies rushed to the state

0:53.6

to deploy AI in HBC builds.

0:56.3

Our guest today, Tom Kleckner, a correspondent at RTO insider, explains all of the changes

1:01.6

that Ercot is currently weighing in order to address this demand while making sure that the

1:06.8

Texas grid doesn't break under the weight of it. There are a number of changes being proposed, a lot of ideas being shuffled around,

1:15.2

and we're not totally clear on what will be decided on yet,

1:18.1

but this episode will be a good primer for y'all to see where Urquhart's head is at

1:22.9

and what changes might be coming down the pipe.

1:25.0

You're listening to the Blockspace podcast, and we'll be right back after a word from our sponsors. Tom Kleckner, welcome to the Blockspace Pod. How you doing, sir?

1:38.3

I'm doing fun, Colin. Thanks very much. Glad to be here. Yeah, appreciate you hopping on. You were the

1:43.2

perfect guest to talk about

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