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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

The Blair Necessities

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

Politics, News, Government

4.5279 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

With a promise to abolish the position of Cabinet Secretary and scrap the Cabinet Office, Reform UK’s Danny Kruger has launched his party’s plans for reforming the civil service.  IfG senior fellow Henry Hill joins the podcast team to explore the Kruger blueprint for government.  Tony Blair has entered the Labour leadership race! Well, sort of. The former PM's 5000 word essay sets out his vision for government. But is it a sensible plan for the current - or future - prime minister to follow? Plus: Everyone is talking about Brexit again. Weeks away from the 10th anniversary of the referendum, we look at where things are with the reset and where they might go. Hannah White presents. With Alex Thomas and Jill Rutter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Real power is held not by the elected government, but by the permanent civil service, especially

0:13.0

the Cabinet Secretary and the sprawling, incoherent bureaucracy of the Cabinet Office.

0:18.3

That's the view of Reform UK's Danny Kruger, who this week launched his party's plans

0:22.2

for reforming the civil service. So, beyond the rhetoric, what is in these plans and will they help?

0:28.8

I'm Hannah White and this is Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.

0:34.2

Reform UK say that plans to underpin the role of the civil service in legislation are an example of top officials using the weakness of the current government as an opportunity to extend their power.

0:45.9

Kruger says he will restore the authority of the Prime Minister by abolishing the Cabinet Office and the role of the Cabinet Secretary.

0:52.6

So how does the party's diagnosis of the problems

0:55.0

facing the civil service stack up? And what would their solutions mean for government? And after

1:00.6

an election in 2024, when no one wanted to talk about Brexit, Kirstama has put closer relations

1:06.9

with the EU at the heart of his latest attempted reset, and former health secretary, Wes

1:11.9

Streeting, lobbed the possibility of rejoining into the battle to replace him. Meanwhile, the UK

1:18.1

seems to be still bogged down in finalising deals with the EU reached at the summit a year ago.

1:24.6

Weeks away from the 10th anniversary of the referendum, we'll look at where things are with the reset and where they might go. Weeks away from the 10th anniversary of the referendum, we'll look at where things are

1:29.2

with the reset and where they might go. Joining me throughout, still annoyed that the rest of the

1:34.9

IFG wouldn't let him open the windows in a heat wave, is executive director Alex Thomas. Hi, Alex.

1:40.6

What have you got against blinds? Well, no, I'm in danger of litigating all this again.

1:45.8

I would just suggest that if there's a breeze outside and there are lots of people in a room and

1:50.4

lots of computers, it's worth opening the windows. I entirely accept the advice of our friends

1:58.0

who focus on adaptation that closing the windows when it's hotter outside

2:01.1

is a reasonable thing to do. But I just don't think it pertains in the office environment in which we exist at the Institute for Government. You can cut that if you want, Hannah. Tempting as it is to discuss this for the rest of the podcast. We will continue. I am also joined by senior fellow, Jill Rutter. Hi, Jill. Hi, Anna. You're not at the cricket today or perhaps you are later. There's cricket on later, so we'll have to see whether we go to that, but there are

2:21.3

other... So, Jill Rutter. Hi, Jill. Hi, Anna. You're not at the cricket today or perhaps you are later. There's cricket on later, so we'll have to see whether we go to that. But there are other

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