Welcome to Just Between Us, the podcast with all of the answers, some of the time.

A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask. Someone that has sex. Someone that has sex. Right. And remember,

it's just between us.

One of the things that is quite significant to me is the importance people placed on the afterlife. This

changed from 1348 and those who were healthy genuinely started to turn their attention to what

they were leaving behind and how they wanted to be commemorated, how they wanted their soul to be

protected, because it was all about the soul, really.

Hello and welcome to this new History Extra podcast series, The Black Death.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne, and this is episode five.

In this episode, we're going to be taking a look at spiritual responses to the Black Death and revealing how it made medieval people increasingly preoccupied

with death, sin and the afterlife. For today's podcast, I was joined by the author, broadcaster and public historian Helen Carr.

Helen specialises in the medieval period, and she's currently working on a book about England in the 14th century.

So Helen is well placed to understand the vast impact the Black Death had on people and communities at the time.

It changed everything and I think that that is why for me it's so important and so

fascinating and it can reveal so much about the responses to such a massive shift in

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