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Grammar Girl: For Writers and Language Lovers.

The birth of punctuation: from oral traditions to silent reading. Noun clusters. A wing wang in a mucket.

Grammar Girl: For Writers and Language Lovers.

Mignon Fogarty, Inc.

Society & Culture, Education

4.52.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

979. In the first segment, we unravel the mysteries surrounding the origins and transformation of punctuation. From the early days when words ran together without spaces, to the introduction of punctuation systems by scholars like Aristophanes, we explore how punctuation has played a pivotal role in shaping written communication. 

In the second segment, we look at noun clusters that can gum up your writing. You'll see how simple steps like reordering, adding clarifying words, and transforming nouns into verbs can transform noun clusters from mind-bending to crystal clear. 

> The punctuation segment was written by Valerie Fridland, a professor of linguistics at the University of Nevada in Reno and the author of "Like, Literally, Dude: Arguing for the Good in Bad English." You can find her at valeriefridland.com.

> The noun clusters segment was written by Samantha Enslen, who runs Dragonfly Editorial. You can find her at DragonflyEditorial.com.

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0:00.0

Grammar Girl here, I'm in Yon Fog, your friendly guide to the English language.

0:10.5

We talk about writing, history, rules, and other cool stuff.

0:14.0

Today I have a fun piece of history about the origin of punctuation

0:18.0

and then some useful tips about avoiding noun clusters.

0:22.0

And then, of course, course Thursday I'll have another grammar

0:25.0

girl conversations interview. This week with Anne Curzan about her new book

0:29.6

Says Who and why linguists should take marketing tips from Apple and why Ben Franklin thought

0:36.0

the word colonize was bad. Watch for it in your feed.

0:40.0

This first segment about punctuation is by Valerie Friedland.

0:47.0

There are so many things in life that just make you wonder who came up with the idea in the first place, like

0:55.0

flaming hot cheetos, skydiving, and pantyhose.

0:59.8

As someone who spends a lot of time discussing the relative merits of punctuation in its various

1:04.8

forms and functions, I've always wondered how the whole idea of punctuation developed in the

1:10.9

first place.

1:12.3

After all, periods might seem naturally necessary to tell us when a sentence is finished,

1:18.0

but semicolons are a whole different ballgame.

1:22.0

Considering that the ancient Greeks also gave us the concept

1:25.3

of parts of speech and impressive philosophizing, it might not be that surprising that

1:30.5

they also introduced a punctuation system about 2,000 years ago.

1:35.0

But even the Greeks weren't that dedicated to regular punctuation.

1:40.0

In antiquity, very few people were literate, and writing wasn't regarded the same way it is today.

1:47.0

Instead, public speaking was prized, and the development of strong oratory skills was the focus of most education.

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