This is on point. I'm Megna Chacrabardi. On August 1st, 2022, President Joe Biden announced

that a U.S. drone strike had killed Al Qaeda leader Aiman Al-Zawakhri in Kabul, Afghanistan.

Eleven years earlier, President Barack Obama announced on May 2, 2011 that the U.S. had killed

then Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden. The two most important men behind the September

11th, 2001 attack on the United States gone. As Biden said last month,

Now justice has been delivered and this terrorist leader is no more.

But what of the terrorist organization they created? What of Al Qaeda has it to been neutralized

as a threat against the United States? After more than 20 years in America's longest and most

expensive multi-trillion dollar war in Afghanistan after the creation of an even more massive and

permanent national security state here in the United States, is the Al Qaeda threat a thing of the past?

Well, Nellie Lahoud is an associate professor of security studies in the Department of National

Security and Strategy at the U.S. Army War College. And she's author of the book The Bin Laden

Papers, How the Obad Abad Raid revealed the truth about Al Qaeda, its leader and his family,

and Nellie joins us today. Welcome to on point. Thank you for hosting me, Magna.

And by the way, I should note that while you're a professor at the Army War College,

you're here speaking on your own behalf and not on the behalf of the war college or the United

States military. Well, so first and foremost, Nellie, what are the Bin Laden Papers?

Well, the Bin Laden Papers were the materials that were covered during the raid that killed

bin Laden. And there is a rich story behind these papers because the raid was supposed to be

completed within 30 minutes. And the reason for this is because Admiral McRaven, who oversaw the raid,

had concluded, had conducted a study back in 1996 that explored several historical missions,

and had concluded that such daring missions should be completed within 30 minutes. And any delay

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