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The Biggest Lie Your Brain Ever Told You (And How to Finally See Reality) | Jonas Kaplan (Fan Fav)

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory

Impact Theory

Education, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Technology, Society & Culture, Business, Self-improvement

4.75.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2025

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Fan Favorite: This episode originally aired on November 25, 2021. It was reported that roughly 1 in 20 people report having at least one hallucination in a lifetime. Maybe it was drug induced or simply a dream. Either way, how is it that you can have vivid imagery about what feels like reality in the moment? Dr. Jonas Kaplan joins Tom in this conversation to discuss all the ways your brain is filling in the gaps of its own break in knowledge. The brain is truly fascinating to study and so important to understand when you want to be more open-minded and question your beliefs or get a better perception of and understanding of what reality truly is. Part of seeing reality as it really is versus how your brain predicts it to be is coming face to face with information that challenges the beliefs you hold. Jonas and Tom explore research studies that reveal the freaky nature of how our brains really work and ways you can hack your way past the overprotective nature of your brain. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 | Introduction Jonas Kaplan 0:21 | Brain Illusions vs Reality 10:37 | Split Brain Confabulation 22:39 | Executive Function Network 26:04 | Changing Your Beliefs 32:20 | When Identity Is Challenged 41:37 | Mindfulness & Self Narrative 53:02 | Dissolution of Self 1:02:19 | Meaning Making & Stories 1:08:27 | Filmmaking & Neuroscience 1:13:51 | Hacking Your Brain 1:19:39 | Brain Body Malfunction 1:22:48 | Homunculus Sensory Map 1:28:23 | Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation Follow Jonas Kaplan: Website: http://www.jonaskaplan.com/ Podcast: https://floatpodcast.libsyn.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonas_kaplan CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS ButcherBox: Ready to level up your meals? Go to ⁠https://ButcherBox.com/impact⁠ to get $20 off your first box and FREE bacon for life with the Bilyeu Box! Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to ⁠https://www.vitalproteins.com⁠ and entering promo code IMPACT at check out Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at ⁠https://shopify.com/impact⁠ Netsuite: Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning at ⁠https://NetSuite.com/THEORY⁠ iTrust Capital: Use code IMPACTGO when you sign up and fund your account to get a $100 bonus at ⁠https://www.itrustcapital.com/tombilyeu⁠  Mint Mobile: If you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at ⁠https://mintmobile.com/impact.⁠  DISCLAIMER: Upfront payment of $45 for 3-month 5 gigabyte plan required (equivalent to $15/mo.). New customer offer for first 3 months only, then full-price plan options available. Taxes & fees extra. See MINT MOBILE for details. ********************************************************************** Do you need my help? STARTING a business: Join me inside ZERO TO FOUNDER here SCALING a business: Click here to see if you qualify Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox: sign up here. *********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast, Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** Join me live on my Twitch stream. I'm live daily from 6:30 to 8:30 am PT at www.twitch.tv/tombilyeu ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS: apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Jonas Kaplan, welcome to the show.

0:06.0

Thank you.

0:07.0

Happy to be here.

0:08.0

I am very happy to have you.

0:09.0

As I was saying before we started rolling, anything about the brain, beliefs, like all that stuff is my absolute sweet spot, my total obsession.

0:17.0

And as somebody who studies this for a living, I want to start with the idea of beliefs.

0:23.7

I think beliefs govern your behaviors.

0:27.5

Behaviors govern your life.

0:29.5

Therefore, the quality of your life is basically the quality of your beliefs.

0:33.3

But most people, I have found, mistake their chosen beliefs for objective truth. And they don't

0:41.6

realize that they have chosen throughout life to believe things, whether their parents told them to

0:46.3

or whatever, but they have decided that certain things are true. Talk to me, how do beliefs get

0:53.1

formed? Yeah, that's right. So they can form very early in life, almost through osmosis. The brain starts to build models of the world. I mean, if you think about what the brain is there for, that's the way I like to start with this. What is the brain there for? Really, the brain is there to keep our bodies alive, right? The brain is a complicated solution

1:12.9

to the problem of homeostasis, to the problem of maintaining a complicated organism like

1:18.5

the human body. Do you have a thesis on why we developed really big brains?

1:24.9

Well, our brains could have been bigger. I mean, it's interesting thing about the

1:28.4

size of a brain isn't necessarily the important thing. High-powered intellect. We want smart brains,

1:32.7

right? Not necessarily big brains. And actually what happened is the brain got wrinklier and wrinklier

1:38.8

to fit more and more surface area in the same head. Because, you know, if we just kept getting

1:43.1

bigger and bigger heads, yeah, pelvis becomes an issue at some point. Pelfast if we just kept getting bigger and bigger heads.

1:48.3

Yeah. Pelvis becomes an issue at some point. Pelfus becomes an issue in walking and all the so, but do you have a thesis on that? Was it for locomotion? Was it for something else? Was it for

1:54.1

social cooperation? I think all of those things. I mean, basically problem solving as life gets

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