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The James Altucher Show

The Biggest Fraud in History | Antonio Reza

The James Altucher Show

James Altucher

Education, Business

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

The ABCs of How to Commit Corporate Fraud:Step 1: Have high-up government connections.Step 2: Deal with a service so complicated that you don't need to explain it.Step 3: Transfer balances between your own entities to pump up valuations.Step 4: Payoff the accountants (or don't have a CFO at all!).Enron, WorldCom, Madoff Securities, FTX. All of these companies have had Icarus-like rises and collapses and they all followed the same playbook. Is it a coincidence that the man who returned $20 billion to Enron's creditors will now oversee FTX through Chapter 11 bankruptcy? Today, Antonio Reza (Head of Finance for Google Cloud EMEA, ex-Microsoft Azure, ex-GE) joins James to discuss the greatest fall of them all, Enron, and its similarities to the recent plummet of FTX. Antonio's recent thread about Enron is a must-read and his Twitter account is full of similar insights.------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook  ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

What do all of these frauds have in common?

0:10.2

FTX made off, Lehman Brothers, and Ron.

0:14.2

I could keep naming frauds all the way back to the 1500s, actually.

0:18.8

Like whenever there's a new industry that's hard to understand and is unregulated, huge

0:23.6

frauds occur.

0:25.4

How can we stop this?

0:26.6

How can you trust the system?

0:28.1

Where do you keep your money?

0:29.5

And what is the playbook of a fraud?

0:32.2

So Antonio Reza, who just wrote a great Twitter thread on the Enron fraud, and is also in

0:38.5

finance for Google, comes on the podcast, and we talk about frauds.

0:43.2

Enron, FTX, made off, and so on.

0:48.3

This isn't your average business podcast, and he's not your average host.

0:53.2

This is the James Altiger show.

1:04.8

Antonio Reza, thank you for coming on the podcast.

1:08.0

Thank you for the invitation.

1:09.0

Very glad to be here.

1:10.3

I saw your thread on Enron, which was if people don't know, was kind of a classic, classic

1:17.8

example of fraud.

1:20.0

In fact, at that time, it maybe still is the biggest fraud in corporate history.

1:24.5

But I say classic example, because we'll go through how they did fraud, and it's kind

1:28.6

of like the ABCs of how to commit a corporate fraud.

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